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anybody saw this version?


i'm reading this book, and really want to see this version because many people say it's great!

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thanks your suggestion, i've seen the trailer and very enjoy it,especially the music. what a pity there aren't much backgrond music.
because i'm not an english native speaker, so it's a little hard for me to get DVD of it or buy it through internet in where i lived.anyway, if someday i'm lucky enough to have it,i'm pretty sure i will like it!!
really envy you for owning the entire adaptaions ^_^,i have just seen the latest movie "PP" and two versions of "PP" of BBC.

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Which JAC do you have? I'm in Canada, and there is a distribution company here called Video Collectibles which has a JAC consisting of the 1980s Austen adaptations in its catalogue. This is the one I'm seriously considering ordering-is it the same one you have?

Update: I ordered the JAC and we have the same set. I have a dilemma though-I bought the 1980 adaptation of Pride and Prejudice earlier, and now I have two copies of it. Anyone out there in region 1 (I'm in Alberta, Canada) who would like to take a copy off my hands?

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<< The one thing I have a problem with is that this adaptation still has that unnatural "stagey" feel that many of the older BBC costume dramas have. A score would have been very helpful; as it is, most scenes are without background music, making it feel very much like a stage production. >>

Absolutely. I couldn't even believe this was made in the EIGHTIES when it started...the setting and atmasphere and especially the SOUND seem so staged and artificial.

However, you get used to it pretty quickly, and it stops being bothersom.

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Yes, I saw it. It was pretty good, but I don't know (I haven't read the book.

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Of the 3 available versions of Mansfield Park, this is the closest to the book.

The book is not Austen's most popular. I first read it when I was 18 and I didn't like it very much. But I re-read it at 40 and liked it very much. It's a very difficult novel, and most of the characters aren't as likable as are those in other Austen novels, but I like it very much.

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It's a really enjoyable adaptation in my opinion. It's certainly head and shoulders above the other 2 versions in terms of loyalty to the novel, even though it looks like it has a small budget.

I like almost all the cast. Fanny Price is excellent. Some of the wigs are really very striking, as is the fake tan smeared all over Tom and Sir Thomas when they return from abroad LOL!

The only thing I really dislike about this version is Lady Bertram. I find her voice really annoying, and as for the thumb sucking, well.....

You pierce my soul. I am half agony, half hope

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Lady Bertram in this version (Angela Pleasance) is the same woman who played Catherine Howard in the BBC's 1970 mega-production of The Six Wives of Henry VIII that starred Keith Michell. She is the daughter of Donald Pleasance, who was in The Barchester Chronicles with her (and Alan Rickman).

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I ADORE this version. I'm happy to find other people do to. This sort of thing is not for everyone--subtle and even a little challenging. If you like movies that aren't just spoon fed to you, which I do, then this is an excellent choice. The budget is small but the acting is superb.

This Austen novel is slower than some of her others, but it contains some of her most intricate characters.

Very intelligent, very enjoyable.

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Lady Bertram in this version is... really something else. She just takes "Lady Bertram" to a whole 'nother level! I had to stop the DVD several times because I just had to laugh!

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Based on your remarks, I just hustled over to youtube to see a few clips from this version, and I have to agree with you. Lady Bertram is just a scream in this. She oozes "psycho" without ever actually saying or doing anything startling or improper. Got to be one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time! I'm so glad I saw that!

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Lady Bertram didn't make me laugh so much as wonder what the director was trying to get at. In another, later version Lady Bertram is depicted as a drug addict. But in this one (1983 version) she just seems to be a complete imbecile, almost unable to walk or talk. I marveled she could form a full sentence given her usual behavior.

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Just got this as part of a Jane Austen Collection yesterday and saw part 1. The only other adaptation I've seen is the recent one with Billie Piper. This is looking to be a big improvement although, like you, Lady Bertram is already annoying to watch mainly because of her voice.

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I've watched this adaptation many, many times over the years, and I'm extremely fond of it. I like Sylvestra le Touzel as Fanny, but I like unusual casting choices. And I think their representation of Fanny as completely trapped by her circumstances and imposed propriety, yet managing to maintain her integrity in the face of immense pressure to do otherwise, is not only faithful to the book, but to the culture and society of Austen's day.

I agree with the poster who mentioned the problem with, as I refer to it, "80's BBC." But once you get used to it, you can enjoy the characters and not be quite so distracted by the sound quality and sometimes awkward flow.

Speaking of sound quality, if you a not a native English speaker, I'd recommend using captioning if it's available on the disc, because the sound quality can make it difficult at times for even English speakers to fully understand what was just said.

I do recommend this adaptation. Watch it more than once, and I think the next time around you'll find yourself more immersed in the people and plotlines without the distraction of "80's BBC!"

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I think Sylvestra's performance is uneven. Much of the time she is very good at Fanny, but some scenes are poorly done.

Having now seen her in several other productions (Northanger Abbey, Vanity Fair, Amazing Grace) I know that she is a much better actress than what comes out in some of her scenes in Mansfield Park. I think we should blame directing and editing for most of the problems (and low budgets). They should have taken a few more takes, and then edited it better.

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Okay, I'm just starting to watch this version. I've read the book last week (books on tape, actually), I saw the dreadful BBC '07 version, and I vaguely recollect the also not-so-good 1999 version.


Having already seen the 1980s versions of P&P and Emma, the cheap sets and the cinematography don't bother me as much as others. However, I'm 10 minutes into the movie and both Tom and Edmund have long hair!! Is this "historically" correct for that time?

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Don't use the 1970s/1980s adaptations as guides to what was appropriate during the Regency. For the most part, they're not. Just enjoy the dialogue and the acting.

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joining a very old conversation here! maybe someone is still reading :-)

I've just finished watching this version of Mansfield Park and really enjoyed it. As has been said already, it feels a little staged like all other old BBC adaptations but IMO it isn't as bad as Sense and Sensibility (1981) and you get used to it after the first 30 minutes.
I think the acting is very good, including Sylvestra Le Touzel. Many people have been quite harsh in their criticism but I liked her style. I think she portrays the awkward, shy teenager well. (it helps that they picked an actress of similar age and appropriate looks, IMO, unlike Billie Piper who was completely wrong as too modern looking).
I really felt for her when the Crawfords are introduced and you see the contrast between Fanny and self confident Mary. I could see how poor Fanny is like a fish out of water during all the social events and in particular when the play is set up. It must be a very hard carachter to play as, unlike other Austen heroines, Fanny is brought up to be less than the other girls in the family, she is not "out" and never sees anyone or goes to balls...therefore she is socially awkward and shy. I think this actress did a good job here.

I like both Henry and Mary Crawford in this version. It's been a long time since I read the book but I remember hoping Henry would succeed with Fanny...while watching the episode where he tells her that he'll show that he will be constant and then goes to visit her in Portsmouth I was thinking: this would be enough proof for me, I'd accept him. But of course Fanny has seen through him and is not persuaded by flattery and a glamorous lifestyle. You've got to admire her for that.

something I found jarring is the hair/wigs etc...
This production seems to have a thing with hair...for some reason they decided that Edmund and a few other-young-men should have long hair...why? This book was written around 1811 and-to my knowledge-men had not been wearing their hair like that for a few decades. (I suppose older men would still go with the trend of their youth)... On the other hand they went for a short hairstyle for Mary. It's a really odd choice. I'm no expert so does anyone know if this short style was commonly accepted for ladies at the time?


As others have said the sound quality is very bad but thankfully my dvd has subtitles. Some music at key points would have been nice too.








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This book was written around 1811

Set slightly earlier, though. Fanny's ball takes place in 1808, IIRC.

1808 or 1811, the hair was still wrong. But I'll forgive it for that. :-)

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I find that sometimes the look in her eyes borders on the silent film look. Sort of eerie.

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I was happy to see that she (Sylvestra Le Touzel) aka Fanny Price in another Austen movie she played Mrs. Allen in the new Northanger Abbey. But, your right this is the best one out. She played Fanny true. Shy and pleasing. The new MP is creppy. Only part I like is the wedding at the end. You will find something in remake that you will like.

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Yes, I have all three versions and this is my favorite of the three. A bit of trivia Nicholas Farrell and Sylvestra Le Touzel played husband and wife in Amazing Grace, and regarding the other two MPs, Blake Ritson who played Edmund Bertram in the 2008 version of MP and Johnny Lee Miller, who played Edmund Bertram in the 1999 version of MP are Mr Elton and Mr Knightly, respectively, in the latest version of Emma.

my god its full of stars

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Johnny Lee Miller also played Charles Price in this version.

http://currentscene.wordpress.com/tag/jane-austen-odyssey/

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