In all my years of reading IMDB comments, never, have I seen such crap posted as yours.
"The event itself was the SAS/SBS raid on the Iranian Embassy in London that had been captured by terrorists 6 days before. "
Op Nimrod was April 1980. No SBS personel were present in the raid (possibly observers or on secondment).
This prompted then Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher to send in the SAS and SBS who had been preparing for some time.
SBS, see above
"The operation was codenamed NIMROD after the great hunter in the book of Genesis."
The operation was named Nimrod after the computer randomly selected the name, like all british operations for the past 60 (90?) odd years.
"As you can tell, this movie is a fairly faithful representation of the actual raid. "
No it isn;t. Not in the least, never. Only the raid at the end, looks familar because of the window entry blasts and the fact the building is white. The rest of the movie has nothing to do with the princes gate raid.
"Also, the events leading up to the raid were fairly accurate, though dramatized for the film."
You either haven't seen the film or don't know anything about Op Nimrod.
"All in all, I have to say this film is a very good example of what is today called a docudrama. I give it an eight out of ten. "
The film is an 8/10, it is not a docu-drama and this poster is nuts.
"BTW: Who Dares Wins is the motto of the SAS unit involved in the raid. This is a partial explanation for the title change in the United States"
Sadly WDW is considerably more accurate than TFS as a title, if not least because the negotiations in the movie last about 2 minutes before moving to the final solution.
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muvphreek
18 years ago
Were you there?
If so, your comments have value as fact. If not, they are simply opinion, nothing more.
It is true that you have as much right to post your opinion as I have to post mine. This is, after all, supposed to be a forum for opinions, is it not?
But Gary, do you need to be such a jerk about it?
I have seen the movie. I have a VHS copy of it. Plus, I received additional information from a guy who was part of the raid, in the SAS.
Yes. It was primarily an SAS op, but SBS units played supporting roles during the preparation for the raid. It was minor, but they contributed.
So, based on the above, are you stating facts, or just spoutihg off?
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grendelkhan
14 years ago
"Plus, I received information from a guy who was part of the raid, in the SAS."
What proof does he have, a beret with SAS insignia? I could just as easily say I'm Andy McNab and I have inside information, but it doesn't make it true.
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msirich
14 years ago
If you Google "Operation Nimrod" you'll get multiple hits. If you choose the Wikipedia posting it confirms April 30 as the date of the Iranian embassy takeover, which was likely the date of SAS involvement. It also confirms May 5 as the day of the rescue. Scroll to the bottom and there is a link to play the BBC tape of the SAS assault.
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sam-bishop-1
14 years ago
Actually the raid was conducted by 22SAS and the squadron on rotation for counter revolutionary warfare was B squadron i believe. and it was a blue team and a red team of B squadron. there was not SBS involved. fact.
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qttroassi
14 years ago
I'm sorry but the movie was stupid. Not boring just stupid... I have to agree with Siskel and Ebert on this. An SAS commando just magically waddles his way back and forth between a goofball terrorist group, the SAS, and his wife. Kind of like "Iron Eagle" on some level it's exiting but it's not really reality based. Collins character is left in the bathroom alone; what if he jumped out the window. Hostage crisis's have went on for weeks even months, the good guys save the day in a matter of hours. The bus with a bunch of people that probably would have had to pass a yankee white investigation are late and no one wonders why (like a cub scout jamboree)! The security initially protecting the dignitaries was that inept that they just let them get past. The terrorists are not smart enough to sheild themselves with the hostages. They also don't understand that if an ICBM landed on Scottland it would probably destroy the entire United Kingdom. Oh yeah the MOD had a blatent mole of a secretary that runs back and forth to a common payphone and snitches their innermost secrets like a gossip queen. I could go on about this all day-it was just dumb.
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dykesy30
14 years ago
Every Tom Dick and Harry who lives in Hereford is ex-SAS apparently. The SAS were not in control until they were sent in. The police were in control and it took an order from 10 Downing Street to give control over to the SAS who had been planning to go in since the hostages were taken. They were however not given control until either the day before or the day of the raid I can't remember which. It was when the first hostage was exectuted.
There are tons of documentaries on the raid and the events leading up to it. One of the best was on BBC2 a few years ago and it was a two hour detailed documentary about the entire hostage situation. Very very informative and has interviews with several of the key people in the raid including several of the SAS and Trevor Lock the police officer hostage.
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qttroassi
14 years ago
I'm not saying it was a bad movie it just was too illogical and inconsistant. From what I understand in England they have the Magna Carta and "secret laws" where they can lock somebody up and not give them a reason why. Does the UK really even put up with radical protestors like that ?
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