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Don't Teens start high school at 14


Okay I am not from the US but don't kids start high school in 9th grade. Stacey is 15 in the beginning of the film starting High School. Can anyone tell me this or is it different between schools and states.

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It is different. I grew up in California (where the movie takes place.) I started high school at 15. 10th grade is the first year of high school. I live in Illinois now, my kids will be starting high school in 9th grade

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Thanks. I would think it would be better to have the kids start at 15, Three grades in Junior high and then three grades in high school but what would I know.

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Not sure how old you are, but back then, and still in some places here, high school starts at 9th grade. There was junior high, which was 7th and 8th, and senior high, which was 9th, 10th, 11th, and 12th grades.

I started 9th grade at 13, but I turned 14 in October. Also back then, as long as you turned 5 by November 30th, you could start kindergarten. So my neighbor was born November 29th, 1968 and he started kindergarten when he was 4, and graduated high school in 1986. My brother and sister were born December 14, 1968 and had to wait until the following September to start school, so they graduated in 1987. Only 2 weeks apart, but separated by an entire grade.

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I was also born in 68. In San Diego, grade school went to 6th. 7th, 8th and 9th were junior high and 10th, 11th and 12th were high school. I graduated in 1986 myself.

I'm not sure how it works out here in the midwest, but my son just finished grade school in 5th. Now he's starting something called 'middle school.' If I recall correctly (I need to double check the school calendar) it's 6th, 7th and 8th - then high school for him (9th through 12th.) No junior high at all.

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There are all sorts of different ways of classifying grades. The first school I went to had K-8, and while there was no specific "Jr. High", the 6 - 8 grade classes were at a different wing of the school.

When I moved to a different town, the next school was K-6, and then you went to a specific, "Jr. High" school with kids from other schools in the area. But, there were also schools in that town/school district which were K-8.

A cousin of mine in another part of the same state went to a school that was K-5, then 6-8. A guy I met in college went to a school that was K-6, then Jr. High was 7-9 & High school was 10-12.

What is the best? Who knows?  I can see having 7-9 together, but that also gives the 9th graders another year to be immature. And, while I don't like all of the ridiculing 9th graders got in High school, they also had to grow up instead of being little turds.

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I've heard some criticisms of middle schools from those who think 6th graders are too young to be going to the same school as 8th graders.

When I was in elementary school, the 6th graders were the oldest, so they were the "top dogs," so to speak. But in 7th grade, it was back to the bottom of the pile, while the 9th graders were the "top dogs" in that school. But now in the four-year high schools, 9th graders are back at the bottom.

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IMO, having 6th graders with 8th graders isn't a big deal. In a small school, they've seen each other around for enough years they know who they are - especially if they are involved in any kind of sports or school activities.

In a bigger school, there is probably enough separation that the kids don't interact all that much. I know some schools "force" interaction, but I would think that there would be enough kids of the same age to keep from having to be together all of the time.

I remember hearing of some schools - and this was a while back in smaller towns - where "high school" was actually from 8th grade up. I don't see where that would work at all, especially when it comes to PE / locker rooms. 8th graders can be 11 or 12 years old - should they really be showering with 17 & 18 year old's? Even if nothing happens, how many 12 year old's are comfortable with their bodies - then put them there with older guys? Ugh!

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Gotcha. I was born in 71.

I guess it's different around the country. I was sent to Catholic school, and that was K-8. But my friends that went to public schools, they only went K-6, then junior high from 7-8, and then high school 9-12.

Maybe 10 years after I graduated high school, they started the whole middle school thing here in NY, putting 6-8 together in one school. Now I think they call them "secondary school". I still just call it junior high. My daughter is going into 8th grade and I just say junior high.

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Where I live (South Texas), high school for many of the school districts begins with the ninth grade and runs through the twelfth, just like in most other places. As for kindergarten, prospective students must be 5 years old on or before September 1st in order to be able to enroll; if a kid's fifth birthday falls after that date, s/he won't be eligible for kindergarten until the following year. At least that's how it happened with me. My fifth birthday fell after September 1st of '74, so I was not able to start kindergarten in the school district right that year. My mom, however, still wanted to get me started in school, so she found a kindergarten program at a Methodist church--and that marked my first year in school. I did become eligible to enroll in the district's kindergarten program the following school year, so I actually had TWO years of kindergarten.  The result of all this was that I graduated in 1988 instead of 1987. And all because of a single date that came two weeks too late. Oh, well. . .

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In the valley where the movie took place 9th grade is the first year of high school....I grew up 15 mins away

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Back when my dad was in school, it was K-8 all going to the same school, with high school being grades 9-12.

By the time I was in school, elementary school was K-6, junior high was 7-9, and high school was 10-12. When I was in junior high in the late 70s, they were in the process of changing to "middle school" which was going to be 6th, 7th, and 8th graders, with the high school going back to the traditional four-year model that my father went to.

My grade was the last one to attend "junior high," as those who came after us ended up being sent to another school (as ours was slated for closing). So, by the time I was in 9th grade, the entire school had only 9th graders, as the 7th and 8th graders were at the new school. That summer I moved to AZ where the high school was a four-year high school.

Even then, it wasn't that uncommon to see students who might be a year or two older than most of the rest in their grade.



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Well, let's put it this way, regardless of how it is in other parts of America or in other time frames, in the late 70s/early 80s in San Diego (and the actual school that the story is based on was Clairemont High in San Diego) junior high was 7, 8 & 9 while high school was 10, 11 & 12.

So a 15 year old girl getting ready to start her first year of high school makes perfect sense in this movie (if nothing else.)

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I agree with Sean and I believe three year high schools were the norm up until the mind 90. I personally believe that is the best system.

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I think we've established that it depends on where you lived. I lived in NY and never heard of a 3 year high school before until this thread.

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(Unfortunately) Illinois here. 5-year high schools are more common than 3, but 4 is the norm.

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Cameron Crowe did his stint undercover at Clairmont High in the late 1970's when it was 10th thru 12th grades. My high school was 10th thru12th as well up until my class started. We became the first freshmen class going there starting in the fall of 1981 (graduating class of 1985). The schools were going to start skrinking in numbers due to the tail end of the baby boomers graduating. Adding another grade and changing jr high to 6th thru 8th middle schools were the solution.

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Usually, people start High School when they are 14 and turn 15 sometime during Freshman year. But, I had a friend who was born on the same day as me (but a year after me) and he was in my grade. So during freshman year, I turned 15 and he turned 14. That was weird. So when we graduated, I was 18 and he was 17.

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In Northern California when I was a kid, high school was 9th-12th, Jr high..or "middle school" as they call it now...was 7-8, and elementary was k-6.

Normally, your 9th grade year took place when you were 14. I do know that some school districts in Southern California, high school doesn't begin until 10th grade, so it's safe to assume that Stacy was a 15 year old 10th grader.

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In Minnesota you have to be 5 before September 1st to go to Kindergarten.

So students are 14 or 15 when they start High School (9th Grade).

High School runs from 9th to 12th Grade here.

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In Minnesota you have to be 5 before September 1st to go to Kindergarten.

Are you talking in today's day and age, or back then? Because back then, most places were different. When I started school in 1976 (in New York), you had to be 5 before December 1st. So I started at 4, since my birthday was in October, which means I started high school (9th grade) when I was just 13 in 1985.

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It's always been that way.

It was that way for me and is still that way for my kids now.

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Are you all in the same school district? Because the school district I started school in had the date as September 30th. Ten miles away, in another city in the same state, but a different school district, it was September 1st.

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It doesn't make a difference. It's all the same date.

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Some high schools start at tenth grade.

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Here's the different ways I've "known" and "experienced.

Southern California (heard this, didn't experience it) Elementary: K-6; Jr. High: 7 - 9th ; High School: 10 - 12

Catholic School I went to, but didn't finish: K-12th (all same school)

My schools I attended in Central California: Elementary: K- 6th; Jr. High: 7 and 8th; High School: 9 - 12.

My son's schools (Bay Area, Northern California) Elementary: K-5th; Middle School: 6, 7, 8; High School: 9 - 12th)

My daughter's school: Elementary: K - 5th; Her Middle/High School: 6-12th (6,7 and 8 at the lower level, and high school at the higher, all the same school)

So you can see there's so many variations, within California.

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Where I come from, it depends on your birthday? If you were born after a certain time, you have to wait for the next school year. I was born in June so I was about average. I was 5 when I started school. I was 14 when I started high school(1979).

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And this whole discussion overlooks the fact that gifted students skip grades. My friend started American college at 16. She’d done her primary and secondary education at a French Catholic boarding school.

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What do gifted students have to do with this movie?

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