Stacy was so easy
She let a grown man rape her, she was willing to give it up after one date with that nerdy guy and she had sex with his friend after he simply walked her home.
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I don't agree that she let Ron Johnson rape her. It looked pretty consensual to me. She didn't exactly try to fight him off or anything, she just looked uninterested. I do agree that she was pretty easy though. It's kinda interesting how Linda is made out to be the more sexually experienced of the two when we never actually see her have sex with anyone in the movie.
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I don't agree that she let Ron Johnson rape her. It looked pretty consensual to me. She didn't exactly try to fight him off or anything, she just looked uninterested. I do agree that she was pretty easy though. It's kinda interesting how Linda is made out to be the more sexually experienced of the two when we never actually see her have sex with anyone in the movie.
And Ron Johnson and Mike Damone were every bit as easy. I'd call them skanks. I wonder how many diseases they spread? share
The law says she can't consent. She's not old enough. That's like saying if she signs a car loan or mortgage, the contract is valid. Unless a minor's parents sign off on the sex, they can't agree to do it. I'm a lawyer, I deal in these matters of sexual negotiations all the time.
shareDidn't she tell him she was 19?
shareIt does not matter what she tells him that she is 19.
shareActually it matters quite a but in a jury trial. If she says she's 19 and willfully engages in sex with someone over 18 she is at least partially at fault. Now he is guilty of statutory rape but given the facts, he would be let off easy because of her lie.
shareShe let a grown man rape her, she was willing to give it up after one date with that nerdy guy and she had sex with his friend after he simply walked her home.
The grown man and Mike Damone were also incredibly easy. Got anything to say about them? share
Yeah, I was pretty "easy" myself as a teenager and I WISH I knew girls that were that easy and looked like Jennifer Jason Leigh.
Easy or not, it's not likely a high school girl who looked like JJ Leigh would have to settle for "Mark Ratner" or "Mike Damone". She'd be more like Phoebe Cates character and not even daye high school boys.
My point was that boys who easily have sex with girls as teens, are just as easy as the girls. They are not superior.
shareTypically teenage boys will have sex with anything walking because society teaches them that its okay to be promiscuous. While girls are conditioned to feel like they should wait and make a guy "earn" her affection. Not saying it's right or wrong but that's how it things are especially back in the 80s. Fact is Stacy is the one shown having sex or attempting to have sex with people she barely knows. If you want to call Mike or Ron easy as well than fine.
shareI don't think it's JUST society telling them this. It's millions of years of evolution telling men to spread their seed. When I was a horny teenager, I too wanted to jump almost anything female with a pulse. It's just hormones at work.
Man, I wish Stacy had gone to my school.
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shareMike was clearly inexperienced and wasn't going around willing to *beep* any girl he sees (on scene at least). The ron guy is only seen having sex once and he's 26 years old made to believe he's sleeping with a 19 year old.
Stacy would have sex with guy who said hi to her.
How do you know that Mike Damone wouldn't have sex with any girl he sees?
And it seems to show that Ron was already experienced at having sex with any girl he sees.
They were easy.
I'm pretty sure he would, but fact is he didn't in any of the scenes. It seemed like he was a virgin in that sex scene with Stacy.
Ron isn't showed having sex with anyone except Stacy, I'm going by what the characters are showed doing not based on assumptions. Fact is Stacy was quick to have sex with a guy she barely knew if you conclude that Ron was too than okay, but that doesn't change Stacy's actions.
I could buy interpreting Damone in the sex scene as him being a virgin or at least pretty inexperienced despite how he tried to come across.
Ron Johnson definitely seemed like a "player" though. And considering his idea of a "date" was to head straight for The Point and bang her in a football dugout and never see her again, I'd say he was as much of a "whore" as anyone.
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I wouldnt say "easy". Stacey was a shy young insecure girl who had little experience in dating. She wanted a long term boyfriend but mistakenly thought that having sex early would win the guy over. By the end of the movie, she learned that having sex too soon was the quickest way to lose a guy. Ron Johnson never called her again and Damone wanted no part of her after they had sex. That's why she chose Ratner in the end because he was willing to wait on having sex because he genuinely liked Stacey and wanted something long term with her.
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shareYou nailed it. Stacey was insecure and emotionally needy, and had very little adult guidance in her life.
shareWhen Flaubert wrote Madame Bovary, I wonder if he could ever have imagined how many different girls and women would turn out to be like Emma…
So many of us still are.
Stacy has her head filled with Linda prompts and Linda information…add that to wanting a boyfriend, wanting to be held, and wait, I forgot the rush of hormones; it’s not surprising that Stacy wants to try out this whole new world that supposedly waiting for her.
I knew a girl who was way easier than Stacy! Even other girls could have her. Total strangers. She even let it slip once that she'd fooled around with her brother!
Marriage is between one man and one woman, to the exclusion of all others.
how do you let a grown man rape you? besides that comment, I agree. wasn't the amount of guys she slept with. it's how quick she spread her legs.
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how do you let a grown man rape you?
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what I'm sAYING IS he was an adult. Stacy was a minor. a comment was said she "let" Ron rape her. I was questioning that choice of words.
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She did let him. You can save all your legal mumbo jumbo. She wanted it, she pulled him towards her and she liked it afterwards. In the sane times before the lawyers and overprotective parents took over society then that is what we used to call people being people. Society isnt going to collapse because a high school chick had sex with an older guy. Trust me. Time we get back to sanity in this country.
shareTrue. The age of eighteen for consent was chosen arbitrarily. It's legal, but has nothing to do with biology or psychology. She obviously went with the twenty-six-year-old guy with the intention to have sex, and with full knowledge that they were going to. She encouraged him. There was no physical or moral rape, only a legal technicality.
Why do they refer to their making out spot as "The Point"? When the guy said that, I expected them to drive out to some spot overlooking the ocean, but it's just a dirty baseball dugout.
Or how quick the easy men got between her legs.
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Stacy is more to be pitied than censured.
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I think Stacy was influenced by the culture around her, as well as the advice given by her older, more experienced friend Linda. Mike and Mark were obviously products of the same culture, and Mark had all kinds of free advice to dispense to Mike.
I think we were all a bit jaded in our own way back then, so it wasn't as if it was anybody's fault or even that people were "easy."
All the old traditions and standards had been shattered; the teens of that era had to operate on instinct with no real guidance or moral compass, except for whatever they could try to absorb from popular culture. There was also still a certain unspoken Cold War era feeling that people should live for today, for tomorrow may never come. "Sex and Drugs and Rock & Roll" was just how it was.
It was before political correctness, before the war on drugs, before the "moral majority" started to gain much of a foothold, along with other such political "reactions" which seemed to take hold in the late 80s/early 90s.
It was Mike dispensing advice to Mark.
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