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Worst briefing scene in movie history

posted 2 years ago by Heisenberg (6730)
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Cringeworthy, idiotic, unwatchable.

Everything Deckard should already know, he is told. Worst exposition chat ever.
Not only that, Deckard responds bewildered, puzzled, or surprised.

He is told all these techincal info as if he was a rookie on his first day briefed by a rookie on his second day.
Most of the time Ford just makes a face, grimacing like a dude in an 80s raunchy comedy standing in a surf store, glancing at some bikini clad babe with a huge pair of knockers, so he smirks at the dude next to him saying "...come on...you cannot be serious!".

Ford and the fat guy's acting is amateurish and overacted, and the tone is off with the rest of the movie and with what this scene should be about.

[–] MovieKnut (184) 2 years ago

Deckard had retired by the start of the movie. There is no reason to expect that he world have kept in touch and up to date on replicant developments.

[–] Heisenberg (6730) 2 years ago

So the replicants he has been retiring before his retirement were all primitive and different than nexus 6? How so?
Certainly NOT in the way this preposterous briefing shows us. I believe any previous generation had most of these features.

What is shown here is "intro to blade running 101", not "quick update for masters".
The way it is presented, I wonder what sort of "old magic" could he ever bring to the table, if he is so obsolete.

[–] MovieKnut (184) 2 years ago

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[–] MovieKnut (184) 2 years ago

So the replicants he has been retiring before his retirement were all primitive and different than nexus 6? How so?

Off course not. The previous generations that Deckard dealt with were obviously so much more advanced than the Nexus 6.

[–] Heisenberg (6730) 2 years ago

You are too primitive to understand the meaning of the word.
But guess what, it does not mean "less advanced". IE, your piece of shit iphone 7 is not primitive even if it's less advanced than your piece of shit iphone 10.

[–] MovieKnut (184) 2 years ago

Don't have the intellect to form a reasoned debate. Ah well, don't worry, these thing are known to skip a generation. I'm sure your kids will be OK.

[–] Heisenberg (6730) 2 years ago

Precisely what YOU are doing, getting schooled and then butting out not able to form any debate.

Just admit it, you were trying to sound smart once in your life but you didn't even know that the word primitive has a clear meaning, only not what you believe.
It's allright, don't need to be butthurt over it.

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

You lost this one, Heisenberg.

[–] triplea (3577) 2 years ago

Lol, nice try though.

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

It's so frustrating when make-believe things like movies aren't EXACTLY like reality!

[–] Heisenberg (6730) 2 years ago

That is the motto of the morons that post on a site called moviechat yet believe that in movies anything goes.
Why the fuck are you here anyway?

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

Shut the fuck up.

[–] Heisenberg (6730) 2 years ago

Yeah I can see that is ALL your argument here.

Go find another place to not be, moron. Everyone else is here to chat.

[–] Annkat (342) 2 years ago

Deckard first became conscious when he was left at that pop up food stand. The one who picked him up was a handler and the real blade runner. The police chief knew what and who he was speaking to and it made him nervous.

[–] Heisenberg (6730) 2 years ago

1 yours is just YOUR theory
2 even if true, wouldn't he know all that stuff already through memory implants?
3 even worse, wouldn't such a rookie level briefing inform him that he is strangely ignorant about stuff he is supposedly an expert of? And tip him off that he was just woken up?

[–] Annkat (342) 2 years ago

1) Not a theory. The opening credits TELL you these people are real but altered.
2) Deckard is the latest "technology". He was a test subject himself and they purposefully held back information for him.
3) Why would he question who he was? Did Rachel question it? She didn't until Deckard said something about Tyrell's niece. And Deckard didn't question himself until the Blade Runner left that unicorn for him at the end.

[–] Heisenberg (6730) 2 years ago

1 Deckard is a human. I like the ambiguity of SOME cuts of BR, but in the sequel and in the theatrical cut it points to him being just a guy.
So, he is an expert BR. He should know all these info.

2 Why would they make a BR unit without all the info on the replicants he is supposed to hunt already loaded in its memory? Why hold back such info?

3 They are almost perfect replicas. If Rachel didnt know how to comb her hair or what a lesbian is, would she question herself? She is intelligent enough to understand that Deckard's knowledge of her spider dream is unexplicable, other than because she is not human.
A glaring hole in his expertise as a BR would tip him off that he was just a brand new machine with some memory implants but not a real experience on the subject. Like, why is all this stuff new to me?
Am I not a semi retired human BR with years of hunting behind me?
Why do I need this fat idiot to give me the BR 101 class?

4 I think it's a badly written and acted exposition scene any way you look at it.

[–] Annkat (342) 2 years ago

1) I'm not arguing that Deckard isn't human. He is, but he is genetically altered person created in a lab. As is the same with the other replicants. We are talking about slavery here and done by twisting words to make it legal.

Like Rachel, he wasn't given the genetic defect that would cause him to die young like the other replicants.

2) Deckard is a test model. They held things back to see how he would develop mentally, emotionally and physically.

3) The test given by Blade Runners is a psychological test. It is trying to determine psychological age of the replicants. Since they are twisted flesh and force grown...they have no childhood. Therefore they are stunted psychologically. That shows up in their micro reactions.

Rachel was the hardest subject to test because she was more developed than her counterparts.

If the replicants are given time, experience would alter and grow their emotional and mental health. It would make the test obsolete. Another reason why they put that degenerating genetic disease inside them.

[–] Threadkiller (3075) 2 years ago

While I "kind of" agree with the general premise of your argument, I do think you're overstating it a bit. The scene was always somewhat odd to me though. While it was easier for me to dismiss the police lieutenant guy as a stereotypical scummy, fat movie boss cop, Deckard's demeaner did always seem kind of weird & out of character. Particularly his nonchalant, slouching body language & how he keeps pulling this weird, halfcocked, smug grin & even chuckles dismissively when being briefed details about the escaped replicants.

[–] Heisenberg (6730) 2 years ago

Yes but it seems to me you picked on his nonchalance only, while what I find the most absurd is his ignorance and disbelief on the topic (which he should know like the back of his hand).
I don't think I am exaggerating, it just shows how old BR is, when they felt they needed to expose every sci fi detail to their "cluless" audience, so they squeezed in poorly written scenes like this.

His proper reaction should have been "This is my bread and butter fatso, spare me the beginners class. You brought me here for my epertise not for my charming personality".