Why did The Final Cut change this line? It was great the way it was.
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I think it was always spoken with an odd pronounciation, so it could pass for "father" in TV versions.
Or at least I believe I read that somewhere...
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This is one thing about The Final Cut I was never fond of. With Roy feeling anger and absolute frustration over his time running out, he wasn’t going to plead for what he desired the most only because he stood in the presence of his maker. Keeping true to his character, Roy was going to demand more life... not make a pretense by asking nicely. Therefore, “fucker" makes more sense to me. It essentially sounds better as well.
I know others have a different take on this, as Scott did.
I prefer ‘father.’ I think it carries more weight. It’s accusatory: “You made me, this is your fault.” It asks the (rhetorical) question: “Just what kind of a father are you?” And it suggests this symmetry: “You created me, now I am going to destroy you.”
Plus it reminds me of ‘The End’ by The Doors:
“Father,”
“Yes, son?”
“I’ve come to kill you.”
Of course, Tyrell is a total fucker, so either is good.
Good points. I still prefer the unapologetic and menacing tone/intent of “fucker,” although I do see the impact “father” leaves in the end. It can be considered more ominous in a way. So yes, either works.
By the way, about those famous lines in The Doors song, the meaning behind them relates to the Oedipus Complex. The more I read about what inspired Morrison to say those lines, the more I was reminded of this pivotal scene between Roy and Tyrell.
I just watched the theatrical and it sort of jumps out as being out of place. Maybe the director agreed. But that's also the power of it. When low class people swear you hardly notice. When someone who is well spoken swears, it's kind of jarring.
shareI thought the same thing! That line came out of nowhere so you really feel like the replicant meant it.. he definitely wanted more life. heh
shareWhile it takes getting used to I do think 'father' works better. Tyrell is his father for a start. The way he says it is full of menace. The way Tyrell reacts with 'the facts of life..' seems more in keeping with being called 'father' as opposed to a direct insult .. Also it works nicely with Prometheus 'father' scene ..and of course ultimately we know Ridley prefers it over 'fucker'
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