I watched the dvd yesterday, and the is this scene with the guy wearing the hockey helmet, i was thinking like: do they use this idea for jason in the friday 13th series?????
friday 13th part III (first time wearing the helmet)
alone in the dark
are both from 1982
do someone know wich one was made before the other?
I don't know the exact release dates, but both movies were released in 1982. However, "Alone In The Dark" was filmed and released a few months before "Friday The 13th Part 3".
Many people assume that when The Bleeder wears the hockey mask, it's a homage to Jason. Of course, that's wrong. I think it's simply a coincidence that both characters wore a hockey mask.
thanks for the answer!
my guess was that maybe seeing this character gave them the idea of jason's look for the 3rd movie
ALONE IN THE DARK 12 November 1982
shareFriday the 13th Part III was released in theaters on Friday, August 13, 1982, and Alone in the Dark was released on Friday, November 12, 1982-three months later. And I read two books on the Friday the 13th series (last year and this year), and it said they in fact got the idea to use the hockey mask for Jason in Part III because alot of its crew were Canadian, and thus big hockey fans. They never made any mention of Alone in the Dark, but because it came out three months after F13th-Part III, and was likely filmed a few months after it as well, I'm pretty sure that the makers of this movie got that idea from the Friday the 13th movie. Also, Friday the 13th was a very big hit, while Alone in the Dark was not, but it is listed in a book on 101 often overlooked horror movies. And in this it states that its killer wore a hockey mask the very same year that Friday the 13th's Jason first donned one. Friday the 13th Part III had its 25th anniversary last month, and Alone in the Dark will have its in about 2 months, so this is a very good time to think about this.
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Also the sack jason wears on his head in part 2 is ripped off from a film called "The town that dreaded sundown" from about 1976. A prototype for the modern slasher film.
shareYou are exactly right about this sack thing, and that movie is from 1976. I'm not sure, however, if it is a prototype for the modern slasher films that came later, because it was simply based on a real life series of events that did happen in its depicted town in 1946, just as depicted in the movie. It was just showing things as they had really occured, so this would have been purely unintentional, to try to start any movie trends.
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I'm not sure they definitely took it from Friday the 13th part 3, because if F13III came out in August, and this film came out in November, "Alone" could have plausibly been filming before in or before August.
shareI explained this on a posting here last September 5, but am back on it today, because today is in fact the 25th anniversary of Alone in the Dark's theatrical release-it was on Friday, November 12, 1982. Friday the 13th Part III was released in theaters on Friday, August 13, 1982, 3 months earlier. cnc72000 was right that they were both from 1982, but wrong in that AITD was released before F13 Part III, it was the other way around. I was 14 then, it was just before I began 9th grade/high school, and while I was early in it-and I do remember both of these movies' releases very well. I went on F13 Part III's board for its 25th anniversary this past August 13, and am on AITD for its today.
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I think movies like some Mario Bava body count flicks and "The Redeemer" were more prototypes for slasher films than "The Town That Dreaded Sundown". It didn't even feel like much of a horror movie to me when I watched it as much as a small-town crime story. Still, does anybody know about a movie called "Act Of Vengeance" (a.k.a. "Rape Squad")? The guy in that isn't a serial killer, but he is a violent rapist who wears a hockey mask and a jumpsuit. That movie was made in 1974! Still, the fact that "Alone In The Dark" and the third" Friday" came out so close together does seem to be a helluva coincidence.
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Wasn't Friday the 13th part III released in 1983??
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No, no it wasn't... First in 1980, Part 2 in 1981, and Part 3 in 1982.
And in regards to the hockey mask discussion, it is a helluva coincidence. After trying to come up with a look for the new Jason, one of the crew members who was a hockey player arrived on set with his stuff, dumped the bag on a table, took out the hockey mask and pretty much said "How's this?"
Everyone liked it so that's what happened.
I got this information from the Special Edition of Friday the 13th Part 3.
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Alone in the Dark was released in 82, but it was completed in the early half of 81, and took quite some time to find a distributor. I don't know when Friday 3 was filmed, but it is entirely possible that either Steve Miner saw this Alone in the Dark prior to it finding a distributor, or that crew members who worked on this film would later work on Friday 3.
I'm not saying that is what happened, but it is within the realms of possibility.
Both films were probably ripping off "The Road Warrior, aka Mad Max 2" which came out in 1981, featuring the main villain wearing a hockey mask.
Seems like hockey masks were all the rage in the early eighties. Even Blade Runner shows some dancing girls wearing hockey masks (I'm referring to the Final Cut and the bootlegged workprint).
And "Road Warrior: Mad Max 2" was ripping off "Slap Shot" from 1977. Well, maybe not. Regardless, hockey was fairly big in the early '80s, so it's not that big a deal that films would have people with hockey masks even if they weren't playing the game.
I think this obsession with these little touches are pointless. Rip-off, homage or coincidence, the hockey mask is a very small part of this film.
What? The hockey mask IS the film.
shareFunny thing is. You barely see the guy wearing the Hockey Mask. He comes out of the store and puts on the mask. Then he runs off and you don't see him with the mask again. So does it really matter THAT much? 90% of the time Jason has a Hockey Mask on. The Bleeder has his on for a minute.
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