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this made me laugh hard!


"Reportedly, Sylvester Stallone insisted that his character score the game-winning goal in the film, as he felt he was the biggest star in the film. The non-American crew was finally able to convince him of the absurdity of the goalkeeper scoring the winning goal, and the penalty shot was specifically written to placate his ego."

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Sounds like Stallone to me.

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yes, the mumbling fool.

lets get into character.

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i saw Pele in a interview say that the shooting started with him as a GK and Stallone as a Striker, but sadly Stallone really sucked so they switched, after 4 days.

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This makes sense because WHY WOULD THEY CAST AN ACTOR WHO STANDS ONLY 5'3" TALL AS THE GOALKEEPER? Sure, there are a lot of very good American goalkeepers these days, but they are all over six feet tall. Sylvester Stallone is only 5'3" - whoever heard of such a tiny goalie? And, wouldn't it be pretty easy to put a penalty kick over his tiny little head and short stubby little arms? This is the most implausible aspect of the movie. He's practically a midget, er, I mean "little person." And did he not know who Pele was? If a team of POW's could possibly keep up with the German National Team, it would be because of Pele, singlehandedly running circles around the Germans.

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"WHY WOULD THEY CAST AN ACTOR WHO STANDS ONLY 5'3" TALL AS THE GOALKEEPER? "

For the same reason they would cast a 5'3" actor as Heavyweight champ!!!

It's SuperSly....

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English soccer team Newcastle have a goal keeper who is only 5'5 so it is entirely possible

its mother,she just goes a little mad sometimes

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No they dont, he's 6ft.

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English soccer team Newcastle have a goal keeper who is only 5'5 so it is entirely possible


Who the hell was that supposed to have been?

Goalkeepers on NUFC's books circa Feb 2006 (Senior/Reserve squads):

Shay Given - 6'1"
Steve Harper - 6'2"
Tim Krul - 6'2"
Tony Caig - 6'0"
Fraser Forster - 6'0"

Too much Championship Manager perhaps?

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Stallone is short BUT HE'S NOT 5'3". I've seen him in person and he looked about 5'9" or so to me. But definately NOT 5'3", where did see that?

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Doing some research, I found that one of the shortest goalkeepers in a World Cup is Mexico's Jorge Campos who is only 5'6" and he wasn't that bad...

Besides, if Michael Caine could endure the whole match, everything is possible!

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One of the funniest scenes in the movie is when the Germans score the first penalty. It is hard to understand how Pelé and the director allowed such a pathetic "fly" of Stallone. He looked like a 80-year old ballet dancer rather than a goalkeeper trying to save a shoot

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That story is absolutely true.Also during making of rocky 5 sly wanted to have a real boxing match with the heavyweight champion at the time.Sly must have the worlds biggest ego

its mother,she just goes a little mad sometimes

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shay given's 6 foot 1

u numpty

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you can have more than one goalkeeper you 'numpty'.

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What made me laugh was the fact that the stadium announcer is French, but the only apparent commentator is English. Damn this film, i was supposed to go to lectures today but i got drawn in.

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> What made me laugh was the fact that the stadium announcer is French, but the only apparent commentator is English.

As in the other football games there are more commentators in the reporter box. This commentator says first something like this: "hello all the listeners in England". The commentator has nazi-sign in his arm. So he's part of the german propaganda.

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Quality replies bones, sorry i didn't come back sooner, and thank you to the kind person who backed up my outrageous claim that Shay Given is in fact over six foot and not small,

I will let you off not knowing anything about football, as you're a Royals (Reading's nickname)fan, nice to see Madejski's millions have finally bought you Premiership status, but no sadly my team shan't be changing places with yours, as my team is the mighty mighty Tottenham Hotspur, oh yes.

We have our gaze firmly fixed on the Champions League places instead of on the Championship, why did you guess I was a barcode? Because I knew Shay Given wasn't small?

Good luck for the year in the big league and I'll thank you in advance for the 6pts, ta.

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Numpty.Is that a word you invented yourself.How long did it take for your one remaining brain cell to think of it.Oh one more thing "get outta my face"Got better things to do than discuss how tall a goalie is.If you are a Newcastle fan,enjoy life in the championship next season as ur boys are going down.My team,Reading will give you a wave as they replace you in the premiership,HA

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Good Night Carrie wherever you are

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Wrong.One of shortest goalies in the leauge.Very good goalie but definately not 6ft 1

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Good Night Carrie wherever you are

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Shay Given is 6'1.

FACT.

"We're making a film here, not a movie."

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ok.bow to wisdom of the masses

Head up young person-"object of my affection"
Good Night Carrie wherever you are

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and I'm sure "numpty" was used in either "Only Fools and Horses" or "Porridge" sitcoms, not made up on the imdb boards in any case. However, Mr Stallone esq is definately one.

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i see.Like sly as an actor but wish he wasn't so darn bigheaded

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I reckon he would have too much class to be in such a poor film

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Good Night Carrie wherever you are

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"numpty" is not a made up word.

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thank you

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one for all and all for DREW

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just to clear sumthing up. stallone is 5' 10". the story goes that he wanted to score the winning goal by going the whole length of the pitch,cos he thought it wud be dramatic if the goalie did that, but booby moore pointed out that such a thing was improbable in football.
funny thing is, that has happened. a goalie running the lenght of the pitch to score a winning goal.so as usual, with sly, not totally impossible.
whoever thinks sly is 5'3" needs to get better glasses.he stands opposite carl weathers who is 6'2, and wud need 7 or 8 inch heels to look as tall as he does in rocky 1 and 2. so please, as i hav 2 keep mentioning on here, stop lookin 4 ways to slag stallone off.

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llove sly stallone-i do think he gets a bad rap,even from me sometimes i am sorry to say.that aside i love the Rocky movies,all of them,and as you can see in Demo Man he can also do a vety good comedy role.
So I say all true lovers of sly stand up and be counted,I am

Aslan is on the move


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I don't care what Sly's bio says.......

if he's 5'10", then I'm the Queen of England.......

Sly is much closer to 5'6", as he did a film here in Nashville years ago with Dolly Parton.....

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sorry to rain in on thehow tall is Sly debate,i dont care hoew tall he is still in my top 10 fave male actors

Aslan is on the move


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"numpty" is a contraction of "an 'umpty" which comes from the Scottish phrase "a Humpty Dumpty", i.e. a figure to be ridiculed.

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well, lets face it. Sly *WAS* the big name actor of this film, so he was
right by thinking so.

Actors these days are MUCH worse in what they demand , and yes, even
script rewritings, most of which you never hear of. I think its safe
to say everyone knows Sly was not schooled in the soccer goins, rules or
how the game was played, and even if he did request more of a hero role
in the game in the movie, so what.

I find it much worse, that someone like Tom Cruise demands that his caterer
by x, y, or z, and that he have a full time chauffeur, nanny, cook, etc
etc etc on location provided by the studio at all times..

I can name 20 of todays actors that way.

Im no Sly fan, but in his defense, he did not only act in the HUGE
blockbuster Rocky just before Victory came out, he wrote it too.
So he does have skills. Like them or not.



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Sly's always been famous in Hollywood for his unbelievably outsized ego and self-worship, so although pathetic, that doesn't surprise me.

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you guys are crazy. yea, an actor might exaggerate his height an inch or two, but 7 friggin inches...come one now. maybe you guys are thinking Stallone is so short because of that big aryan dude he fights in rocky 4...who is 6'5"

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Well,the last scene of Stallone catching the ball as a goalkeeper did work for the film.His Captain Hatch character was able to redeem himself that he should be part of the football team despite of his lack of talent in the sport.Besides,if it ended with him scoring the winning goal,the film would have lack credibility since it was presented in the early parts of the film that he was not a good football player.BTW,Stallone is definitely not 5'3".His second wife Brigette Nielson was 6'1" and he is probably just a couple of inches shorter when they stand together.I know his first wife Sasha Czak was short at 5'0".He is probably 5'10" or 5'11".

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Stallone in real life is somewhere @ 5'6" - 5'8". 5'3" was someone's exaggeration, as that is closer to Tom Cruise's height. Anybody who is claiming Stallone is 5'10" or taller is living in dreamland, having a laugh, or is paid by Stallone.

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Stallone was terrible in this! The footballers were better actors than he was.

To those talking about how tall he is - I'm 5'9" and I've been "lucky" enough to see him in person about 10 years ago. If he's a touch over 5'7", I'm the Queen of England (NOT!)

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There are so many miss-informed people on here.

Sly's not a giant, but he's not a midget. He seems to be around the 5'9" area.

But that's not even relevant; you don't have to be over 6' to be a goalkeeper. Shorter goalkeepers can get lower quicker and tend to be faster so they can close down angles and charge down strikers.

He's something you may disagree with, but read before you judge:

An athletically built goalkeeper (around 5'6"-6') can out-jump people over 6'. This is because; although a 6'+ person starts higher and has longer limbs, muscles are over stretched and can't recoil and spring as effectively as a smaller person. So the shorter keeper has more power in his jump and can get higher.

Look it up before you moan.

At the end of the day, being a good keeper is down to having to good hands, sharp reflexes, strong pain threshold and balls of steel! After all, he goes in with his hands and head where everyone else has boots, studs and shin-pads..

As you may have gathered, I’m a goal keeper. And I stand at a whapping 5'7" and can out jump my two centre backs who are both over 6'4".


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Maybe your centre backs are just poor jumpers :P ;)

No, but seriously. I can't really remember any small goalkeepers who, in my opinion, have been very good. I can think of Van der Saar, Schmeicel, Kahn, Iker Casillas, Victor Valdes, Frey, Toldo, and so on and so forth.

I'm certainly not denying that there may exist good goalkeepers who are short in stature, but it seems very improbable.
Height is a critical factor in goalkeeping, I'm afraid.

PS: Being able to jump high doesn't mean you will catch the ball while in mid-air.
But I guess you mentioned that in your post :P

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