At the end, when Shawn goes berserk and starts shooting at the national guard, we see him aim at their commander and then shoots a burst. And yet, after Shawn and Moreland get shot, we see the very commander march in unscathed. Wasn't that a bit, um, strange?
sharei assume, though it wasnt clear, that the expositional conversation shawn had with his red berets about the "flack jackets" aka bullet proof vests being made of lead or plastic would be the remedy for why the commander was unscathed.
shareHe shot the Colonel with an M-16, which is a .223 caliber rifle. At the range he shot Kurby, he should have killed him, easily. I thought he was dead, until he got back up. I assume he had on a bullet proof vest, which is entirely possible.
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This is described on the details page: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083169/goofs
It's a goof.
"Continuity: When Ronnie Cox's character is shot by Capt. Shaun, he appears to be hit in the left side of his neck. Later he is holding is left shoulder. When he is phoning in for the copters to lay down the smoke, a soldier is shown applying a bandage to his right arm. By the very end, there is no sign of any gunshot injury or bandage."
How could someone preview and release this film with such an obvious goof.
Just because he cut loose and fired towards the Colonel doesn't mean he would hit him, or anywhere near him. Those large caliber weapons are hard to fire accurately in the first place, and it wasn't like he had a lot of experience - unlike the National Guard troops who riddle everybody in that room with bullets.
I would have been more surprised if he HAD hit anybody.
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Flak vests can stop bullets, just not all rounds and it also depends on the distance the round has traveled. We see Kirby drop, but I don't see blood on him when he enters the building. Here's a thought - his body armor stopped the round, but the hit still had enough kinetic energy to knock him down. That's very realistic. Even with body armor, hits HURT. It's like getting kicked in the chest.
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Agreed. However, to the layperson, a flak vest and body armor are the same thing.
Nobody wears flak vests anymore, if they can help it. Everybody wants body armor, to the point where some troops buy it on their own. However, a flak vest is better than nothing and may well take enough velocity off the round that it won't injure you near as bad.
A quick point: Not all rounds are capable of piercing flak vests. The problem is that many have now switched to rounds that can. Those rounds are common enough that body armor is preferred.
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Col. Kirby wasn't even wearing a flak vest/body armour, he just had his green shirt on! I think this is a huge goof, the only explanation I can think of is that the round hit one of the metal railings on the gate and didn't actually hit Kirby. But in real life a bullet to the upper part of the chest would seriously wound him, if not kill him, he wouldn't be running around after that.
shareI just watched it and it looked like the bullet deflected off the Col's helmet. A few seconds later when the soldiers are pulling him away there is no bullet hole visible anywhere.
shareThe commander does go down but he must not have been hit. He remains in many of the scenes and seems unharmed. Shawn's attempt to fire the rifle was poor as well, anyone with any real training with a rifle (not even on the military level) would not have fired that way. It was really sloppy.
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He is wounded in the right arm. Not much blood but there IS a visible tear in his sleeve.
I noticed that, too.
Thankfully, Colonel Kirby survived.
Ronny Cox did not learn how to take a bullet properly until Beverly Hills Cop 3.
Can't tell you all the problems he's caused on the Deliverance board.
"Ronny Cox did not learn how to take a bullet properly until Beverly Hills Cop 3. "
Ok, that post made me laugh but what about Robocop? He took those bullets from Murphy's gun pretty well. And he even grew longer arms when he fell out the OCP tower's window. Haha.
Agreed. There is definitely a bullet wound in his right arm & you can see him favoring it as he runs down the hallway toward Cruise & Hutton.
shareThere's a simple explanation for this--this movie was just very poorly written and directed.
There's a lot of things going on in this movie that I couldn't get: Such as:
-- Why would Bache take a gun to a high school dance? Unlike law enforcement officers, military servicemen are not required to carry guns at all times and why would he decide to do so at an event such as this?
-- At that same high school dance. a brawl between the cadets and the townies takes place and Bache and the other adults attempt to break it up. A young townie takes Bache's gun out of the gun holster and inadvertently shots and kills another young townie. Even though it was obvious that the townie did this, and others, particularly the cadets, bore witness to it, how could Bache been charged with the shooting? How could Bache himself feel guilt about the fatal shooting, when he had to have known full well that he didn't fire the gun and that it was taken away from him?
-- When has the federal government ever supplied a military school, especially a school consisting of minors, with an extensive arsenal of ammunition and firearms?
- Why would a governor order the National Guard to bombard a school ground filled with children? How could they be "homegrown terrorists" as Kirby called them if they were restricted to the campus and obviously couldn't leave?
- Being that the cadets were shut of from food and water, why would a governor even order military force and risk killing children when all he would have had to do was wait for them to eventually succumb to thirst and starvation?
- Wouldn't it have been strangely ironic for Kirby (Nat'l Guard Colonel) to have ordered a military takeover of the campus after the little boy (Charlie) was shot to death?