My interpretation




I just saw this film for the first time this past weekend and thought it was a masterpiece. Not only was it visualy stimulating but also complex in many ways, causeing me to ask myself questions immiediatly following the films end. plain and simple I just saw it and I can't wait to see it again. My interpretaion:

I believe that at some point not shown in the film, taking place before the film's start- Adjani's character is manipulated by a demon and ultimately possessed. I take it the transformation is a slow process, but she's well on her way to madness by film's start. I havn't seen this mentioned- but I also believe the boy to be the offspring of the demon and Adjani's character-- Like a way more Intelectualy compelling version of the Omen/Rosemary's Baby. I beleieve Adjani's breakdown to be in a demonic sence while Neill's breakdown to be purely mental. The ending is beautiful in it's own right- as the child, "Sensing the figure outside the door not to be the father he has grown to love but rather a much more sinister reality;" decides to take his own life. Thus, ending the whole evil plot constructed by the demon.

I love this film beacuse it leaves itself to be interpreted differently by each individual who watches it.

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alright but... what about the pink socks man and the police job and the two pills and the war at the end?

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Sorry Ken Slagg...but I think you missed the point of this film - it is an allegory for divorce. The "monster" is actually the product of Adjani's internal guilt, shame and deep sexual desires that have been physically manifested into the external reality. The monster evolves into a replicate of her husband - her idealized husband. Adjani's own doppelganger appears in the form of her lookalike - the school teacher Helen, who is the idealized wife, in Sam Neill's eyes.

At the end, when the monster goes back to the house (After Adjani and Neill are killed) the boy begs Helen not to open the door and then promptly drowns himself in the bathtub - the "idealized" husband and wife are reuniting but the boy senses that it is a doomed marriage, as he already knows the troubles of his family life. That is the symbolic meaning behind the whole world ending at the film's end: they are a dysfunctional family unit destined to end destructively. Nothing in this film is literal. Like I said, it is an allegory.

The film was in part based on director Zulawski's own ruined marriage and the film on some level explores the devastating effects of divorce and the stress upon the children involved. It isn't really much of a "horror" film in the classic sense as it is a psychological drama.

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exactly the way I saw it (felt it). couldn't put it all in order though, thanks parafffin5.

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insightful post, kudos parafina

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Ok, that makes alot more sense! Thanks Paraffin!

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i actually skipped through this movie and could work that out lol

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You did better than me then, I figured the monster she'd created was the devil ala Rosemary's Baby and the end of the world was the due to the devil walking the earth.

One thing though, if the monster was the physical representation of guilt, shame etc. then why did she murder the detectives to feed it?

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Well, she is catatonic after all...but also, to "protect her faith" as she says at one point in the film.

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Keep in mind, ladies and gentlemen, that the OP titled the post "my interpretation".

That is what can be fun with movies, in that we can add a bit of ourselves through our interpretation (ie what we see or want to see). Yeah, it is a commentary on divorce... the director (in the audio commentary) pretty much states this. BUT, if one wants to see this as a demented variation on THE OMEN, then why put the man down for seeing it that way? There is nothing saying that POSSESSION is a more personal, creepier version of THE OMEN while underlying a secondary/primary message of the destruction of the nuclear family (which is further emphasized in the end when it is implied that a nuclear war is breaking out). I guess it is fitting that the bringer of "the end of the world" is Sam Neill (who played Damien in OMEN 3).

Most of the best movies out there (ALIEN, STAR TREK II, PLANET OF THE APES, CONAN THE BARBARIAN, DIE HARD) have fairly straight-forward "surface" stories, whereas with a little bit of observation one can see a secondary objective/commentary that makes the movie that much deeper and better (the idea that one must fear their own kind more than anything foreign; Kirk and Khan having blond, blue eyed sons with diametrically opposed family lives [among other things, like a commentary on mortality - everyone is wearing a "red shirt"]; commentary on race relations; various philosophies and the hypocrisies of institutionalized beliefs; John McClane/Wayne fighting against a group of villains composed of every country we fought a war with in the 20th century).

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''Most of the best movies out there ... CONAN THE BARBARIAN''

Lol, ok...

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I believe this film has nothing to do with Polanski's type of films. Polanski is really delving into the supernatural. The baby in "Rosemary" is really, according to Polanski, Satan's son. Take, for instance, his "The Ninth Gate." It also deals with demonic creatures and again Satan.

However, this film, in my opinion, is much more profound and more European-style. It reminded me of "Don't Look Now" (1973).It's all a complex metaphor associated with sexual desires, infidelity, failure in marriage, etc. I have seen the film only once and I couldn't help reading others' opinions here which were really inspiring.

To sum, I recommend you not try to interpret the film literally because it complicates everything. I mean that monster shouldn't bee seen as a "monster." It has to be a metaphor.


Mohsen Qassemi,
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Sorry Ken Slagg...but I think you missed the point of this film - it is an allegory for divorce. The "monster" is actually the product of Adjani's internal guilt, shame and deep sexual desires that have been physically manifested into the external reality. The monster evolves into a replicate of her husband - her idealized husband. Adjani's own doppelganger appears in the form of her lookalike - the school teacher Helen, who is the idealized wife, in Sam Neill's eyes.

At the end, when the monster goes back to the house (After Adjani and Neill are killed) the boy begs Helen not to open the door and then promptly drowns himself in the bathtub - the "idealized" husband and wife are reuniting but the boy senses that it is a doomed marriage, as he already knows the troubles of his family life. That is the symbolic meaning behind the whole world ending at the film's end: they are a dysfunctional family unit destined to end destructively. Nothing in this film is literal. Like I said, it is an allegory.


I think even that is only a surface interpretation...as Anna (Adjani) explains after the scene where she goes insane, hers is a struggle between chance and faith. Anna's lack of faith in the marriage and her inability to commit to it (her 'disease') rubs off onto Mark, and he ends up sacrificing his sanity and the welfare of his son for the chance that his wife will return to normal. Instead of having enough faith in the situation to accept the divorce, Mark denies her disease by dismissing her violence/insanity and refuses to believe she is a murderer, and consequently ends up personifying the disease himself by mimicking her behavior.

Even though Anna realizes she is in an ongoing battle between meaninglessness/chance and belief/faith, she can't make a choice because she doesn't know which is which; she could have faith in a new man and his ideas (Heinrich himself symbolizes faith/belief in God), or she could have faith in what she already has, by remaining with her husband. Anna's preoccupation between which path is the right one to take seems to be what drives her mad. When Anna harms Heinrich in order to keep the disease alive, Mark loses his fear of Heinrich and kills him, further solidifying his belief that faith is weak/hopeless and chaos/chance is the only reality. This causes Mark to spiral further into madness until the end, where he rejects Anna and his diseased self/the monster by killing them. However, he has also rejected Helen (another symbol of faith), opting instead for a belief in neither/the middle ground (he chooses Margie).

It seems that Mark has made the right decision, in the last scene when young Bob, influenced by his diseased parents, seems to sense danger, while unsuspecting Helen goes to open the door. But instead of opening herself up to harm's way, we see Helen invincible to the evil forces that await her. So in the end, either faith does hold some miraculous protective power, or it is the harbinger of evil in disguise.

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"This causes Mark to spiral further into madness until the end, where he rejects Anna and his diseased self/the monster by killing them...."

I don't believe Mark killed Anna and the monster...was she not killed by the shootout by the police? The monster escapes, right? Goes back to the apartment where Helen is?"

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I just looked it up on Youtube again and you're right, it's the monster who visits Helen at the end. Anna appears to be shot both by Mark and the police around the same time though.

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I just watched this movie and Anna is actually shot by:

a) Mark, and
b) the police, and
c) herself, finally!

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Is there some sort of edited version. I've never seen the boy drown himself in the bathtub at the end. I've just seen the doppelgangers and then the film ends. What the hell have I missed???

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There are two versions one highly edited and the restored version.

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Puuh! Thanks.

I got that it must be an allegory, but I could not work out what for.

Your interpretation sums it up nicely I think.

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Spot on interpretation, mate. Kudos to you.
I had many doubts about the film. This little explanation sums everything up.

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It's so weird on this message board that people feel so concrete about their interpretations. I don't find anything simple about this movie, whether it's an allegory for divorce or about an actual demon or about straight-up people experiencing psychosis/mental collapse -- I just don't find it plausible that someone can be like "This is what it's all about. It's that simple. There ya go, now you've got 'Possession' all figured out, on to the next movie." It's not simple because it's an extremely *intricate* movie with immense complexity. There are scenes that are edited into the film that throw you off once you feel comfortable with one idea/interpretation. The narrative becomes incoherent, will begin to make some sense, then fade out of focus again -- there are moments in the film that feel so deliberately random and chaotic that it makes me feel that it's impossible to pinpoint everything down so easily, so cut and dry, you know?

I just love discussing the film without achieving an objective to "figure it out completely" but more to just reflect and analyze the possibilities... it's like a mirror within a mirror, within its reflection is an endless loop of interpretations. I have my own personal interpretation, and that alone makes the movie really frightening and scary for me. I found it entertaining on that level because it functions well as a horror film, which is what drew me to own/watch it, but it's also so complicated that you cannot possibly categorize or box this movie up into one explanation, one genre, one theme, one allegory, one metaphor, etc. I like how the OP just says "this is my interpretation" instead of saying this is "THE" interpretation -- because we can go back and forth on this board forever if we want to claim that someone isn't "getting it" when they're actually providing a solid possible interpretation. That's what is fun about the movie but equally frustrating as an audience.

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Mark doesn't ever shoot Anna, he just points the gun at her. Are you watching the American version? Because that was heavily cut.

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Anna dies by lying on top of Mark's body and shooting herself through the back. It wasn't Mark or the Police that kills her.

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I agree with kinoman-2:

The very reason why this film was lambasted by so many people is because it requires the full use of imagination on the part of the viewer. Those who like films to be linear or over-explained (almost 90% of all films and almost 100% of all Hollywood films) will call this film confusing, baffling, hysterical, etc. However, very few directors are able to use cinematic space as Zulawski does in this film. This doesn't appeal to your rational part, it's supposed to connect with you on spiritual or deeply emotional level, it's supposed to appeal to something in you that can't be rationalized or explained verbally. Possession is a piece of pure cinema, no less.


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The reason it ended up banned was through the rejection of the sequence where Anna is having sex with squid like monster and the child committing suicide.

I only literally found the film yesterday, after searching for years for it to watch. And it is inexplicably good and complex. And a fantastic portrayal of a marriage breakdown, that affects the psyche of all involved.

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Exactly right! Like films such as "Take Shelter", "The Babadook", "Triangle", etc. "Possession" allows for multiple simultaneous interpretations, all of which coexist to varying degrees of literal meaning on one end, allegorical meaning on the other. To confine the film into just one interpretation is folly. While ultimately up to each individual viewer to pinpoint their preferred interpretation, I think it's wise to understand that films such as this are imbued with multiple layers that are not mutually exclusive.
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I wish I could up-vote you, Warrior_Poet. Spot on.

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I think Shuttlebug summed it up best by stating the film is much too intricate and complex to have a single interpretation, and that almost any interpretation has validity on some level or layer of the film.

That being said, though the title and very concept on the film itself is a metaphorical play on Catholicism based demonic possession, I believe the fact it is used as the title is evidence itself that it is purposely and merely the easiest, most shallow, and most transparent layer of the film. I think for it to be as straightforward in that regard as The Omen, Rosemary's Baby, or The Exorcist, it would require either or both the filmmaker's own belief in a God/Satan system of reality, or in the very least an attempt to use the audience's belief in this system to frighten them. We must remember that horror is oftentimes a reflection of the creator's own fear of their external experience, for if they did not fear the subject themselves how could they ever convincingly portray it as fearful to someone else? Possession does not seem to give any true, clear validity to the belief in Satan or in the Christian-based God, and never mentions this dichotomy of evil despite delving deep into the exploration of what &quot;God&quot; is. I suppose, with a stretch, Sister Chance could be interpreted as Satan, but a further and more detailed understanding of how chance is used in the film pretty much dismantles that.

I personally believe more so in the validity of the &quot;psychological manifestation of her guilt/desires into her idolized, surrogate family unit&quot; interpretation, I think there are a lot of things in the film that support this, but again, it is merely a layer, a small fragment, and rather rudimentary to the film as a whole. Yes, this film and many others coming out of this particular aspect of this particular European culture at this particular time are steeped in the ideas of psycho-analysis. The psychological state of the characters, and especially the psychological effect they will have on their son, is openly discussed in the film. However, this is not a Cronenberg film, Zulawski is clearly not commenting on the dangers of psycho-analysis, the pharmaceutical industry, the practices of doctors, or anything of the sort that Cronenberg seems so periodically obsessed with, and often times similarly uses physical manifestation to explore (The Brood, The Fly, Dead Ringers).

The more complete, deeper, and profound meaning of this film, though I do not claim to have found it or know anyone that has (despite many of my friends writing huge papers about this film for school), lies somewhere in the realm of the metaphysical, the exploration of this concept of &quot;god&quot;, and the creation of reality. My own farfetched-ness aside and digressed, I must still agree with Shuttlebug in that there are far too many unexplained threads and dangling concepts purposely left throughout the film to illicit any solitary interpretation. This is not a film of answers, it is a film born from questions.

In regards to the child killing himself at the end, I'm not so sure that is truly what is happening. Perhaps. I cannot discredit it. But it seems far too easy and straightforward, aside from the simple fact that drowning yourself is EXTREMELY DIFFICULT and takes an incredible amount of dedication and tolerance to pain, which I just don't think that child would have. It is important to note the occurrences earlier in the film. The first shot we see of the possible family unit, the first shot that is inside the house itself, is of Anna in the kitchen, and Mark in the bathroom, watching his son in the bathtub. He calls for Anna to &quot;Come and admire him&quot;, and they watch and laugh while he plays in the water. Again, the child is in the bath the first time Helen, the teacher/surrogate mother character, comes to the house. Note what game is being played in this scene. Bob, the child, is making his father count how long he can hold his breath under water. This bathtub incident at the end of the film is not a secluded occurrence, it is steeped in symbolism and playing off many things we already subconsciously know, the least of which being that the bathtub is this child's safe space, the place he feels the strongest connection to his father and his family unit.

Something unmentioned here that I find seemingly very important is the use of location. I don't believe anybody I know, and probably anybody on this thread, would be able to fully and accurately interpret that because it is a different of culture, a difference in the way our perception has been built and effected every moment of our lives, because nobody I know grew up in the shadow of the Berlin Wall in the 1970's and 80's. The opening shot of the film is the Berlin Wall stretching into the distance as far as the eye can see, and the second shot is it stretching out in the opposite direction. Then, later, when he finds Anna's house of horrors, discovers the bodies in the fridge, and is spinning around the living room, screaming at the top of his lungs, Mark throws open the windows, and the shot of him calming, coming to a slow realization of what he must do, accepting the &quot;disease&quot; (god) as some would interpret, the Berlin Wall stretches out along his perspective line. And what of the use of buildings as an oppressive force, overbearing and overshadowing the characters despite the city being sadly devoid of people? What of the use of frames, the fact that nearly every time you see the creature or its bed it is through the door frame, the way frames are used to disconnect Anna and Mark in several scenes establishing their loss of love, the way Mark drives through numerous frames on the motorcycle after being shot, and finally, the way Mark is used behind the transparent door frame in the last shot?

I think the scene towards the end of the film where Mark talks to Heinrich's mother is very important to the overall interpretation of film and through what lens one should attempt to perceive any concepts of explanation within the rules of the film. It seems that many people are thrown off by her taking the pills, but I think it is rather straightforward that she is killing herself because she doesn't want to live in a world without Heinrich. She says exactly that as she is lying down. What is interpretive about this scene is her distress at the loss of Heinrich's soul. She clearly states that it was taken before his body was, that she cannot find where his soul went, insinuating that Mark knows where it is. Not that Mark took it or killed him, but that Mark knows where he lost his soul before Heinrich died. Now, Heinrich, being the most spiritual (Faithful), sees the world not just through two eyes, but largely with his &quot;third eye&quot;. The scene when he comes to Mark's house, and he is obviously on some sorts of drug, he is clearly acting as if his third eye is wide open, he is barely using his normal eyes, his hand is at his forehead, and he is stumbling and pushing into things with the hand on his head. Then later, when he comes to Anna's, the moment he sees the creature he seems to go blind. He stumbles around the house, seemingly in complete darkness, reaching out and unable to see Anna directly in front of him. The only thing that brings him back to reality from this blindness is the horrific sight of the cut up body in the fridge. This would lead you to believe that the creature took his soul.

In fact, the creature itself has many other parallels to &quot;god&quot;, even aside his ability to take one's soul from their body. He is a byproduct of creationism himself, and it is quite difficult to find where in the creation cycle he comes from. Was he born from Anna's &quot;miscarriage&quot; (her word) in the subway, or at some other point? The fact that she is constantly wearing near-identical blue dresses also aims to confuse the timeline of when she begins to manifest the monster. Later, the doppelganger is clearly in the path of bullets when Anna and Mark are shot by the police, so much so that Zulawski takes the time to have a reaction shot just of the creature Mark as they are being shot to show it not effecting him, despite hitting everywhere he is. Then, immediately following this, he takes control of the girl's mind to escape. He, in many ways, is perfect, the perfect manifestation of the perfect family unit, and is not the definition of god perfection? Perhaps, if Helen is the &quot;god&quot; reflection of Anna, her interpretation of it, the perfect balance of faith and chance (as exemplified by the way she destroys Mark's sexist perspective of generalizing women with a badass monologue on feminism), than perhaps this doppelganger creature is the &quot;god&quot; reflection of Mark, his interpretation of it, as evidenced in his &quot;god is a disease&quot; and &quot;god is a dead dog&quot; monologues.

Lastly, the last shot is &quot;the world ending&quot;, some have said. That is odd. I don't feel as if any other part of the film has foreshadowed this or alluded to anything of the sort happening. Not to say I have any idea what the hell is happening. But I guess that is the point. You will not unwrap the mysteries of Possession with answers, my friends, as with all great things in life, the exploration of questions within the film only bears more questions, and rightly so.

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