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Is Abel Ferrara a misandrist?

posted 15 years ago by le_chiffre-1
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I haven't seen any of Ferrara's movies, and frankly, I'm not sure I want to.

However, just based on the descriptions I've been reading, I've been wondering: is Ferrara a misandrist, or a mangina?

The common theme I notice between Driller Killer and Ms.45 is that the victims are all men. In Ms.45, the feminist message is explicit, and in Driller Killer, I'm told the main (male) character (the killer) is bunking with his ex-girlfriend and her lesbian lover, which suggests the feminist ideal of the pussywhipped subservient male who lets women do whatever they want. Lesbianism, to those who have had any real-life encounters with it as opposed to the make-believe world of skin mags, is closely tied to feminism and misandry. Are these feminist movies? What is Ferrara trying to communicate with these movies, if not a hatred of men?

[–] tangelovizion 15 years ago

Well, this definitely contradicts the theory that he is a misogynist. I think he just loves exploiting all types of people and he does a damn good job. If you watch Dangerous Game with Madonna and Harvey Keitel, you will probably retract your statement. But I don't recommend that film. I due recommend Bad Lieutenant, King of New York, Ms. 45, and The Funeral.

[–] King-Grim 13 years ago

I'd say he's a misanthrope, if anything.

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[–] amd8404 12 years ago

Lesbianism, to those who have had any real-life encounters with it as opposed to the make-believe world of skin mags, is closely tied to feminism and misandry.

The idea that lesbians must hate men (or for that matter, that feminists must hate men, if that's what you're saying) is also "make-believe."

I think your fear of women would prevent you from gaining much from a viewing of Ferrara's films, so don't bother.

[–] Errington_92 12 years ago

Yet it could be argued Abel Ferrara was not wholly misandrist if we focus on Ms. 45. Despite having an empowered female protagonist, to an extent she was portrayed as a erotic figure when she dressed up for her nightly roams on New York's streets undermining the depth of her murderous motivations. Therefore if you're arguing his misandrist attitudes then sexist attitudes towards women could also be valid.

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

I don't know. But films like this definitely appeal heavily to misandrists. A misandrists wet dream.