which one was Atze?
i've only seen the german version so i could only understand little bit of their conversations. when atze is in the paper what does it say about him? and when did christiane meet him?
sharei've only seen the german version so i could only understand little bit of their conversations. when atze is in the paper what does it say about him? and when did christiane meet him?
shareRemember in the beginning of the film, when Christiane goes to the Sound club for the first time? She is sitting in the theatre watching "Night of the Living Dead," and this boy is sitting next to her. First he offers her some pills then he tries to put her hand between his legs but she doesn't want it. That was Atze.
shareNo, that wasn´t Atze, because she did not get in real touch with him. "Atze" was the guy she met first on the toilett of SOUND-disco, with the needle in his arm. He looked like he was dead.
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yeah, and he also stands in front of Sound with the rest of group and he is in the next scene - I mean when they are running in EC :)
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I am confused about which one he is. Because in the book she refers to Atze as being her first boyfriend, and the person she goes to the David Bowie concert with. When I saw the film, I therefore assumed that the guy she was at the concert with who was doing cold turkey was Atze. This has caused me no end of confusion though because obviously Atze dies, yet this guy who I assumed was Atze puts in a further appearance at the end of the film which obviously he shouldn't do if he's dead. I wondered if it was an error in the film or if I have just got the wrong person.
Holy *beep* what are you pepole writing here?? Atze is neither the dead-looking guy in the toilet, nor Christiane's company at the Bowie show. The latter is obviously Leiche, however as far as I remember they never call him by any specific name in the movie. But the description from the book fits. The dead-looking guy in the toilet is the dead-looking guy in the toilet, period. I'm not quite sure right now if any one of the guys is referred to as Atze in the movie. I'd have to re-watch it, because it's been a while. However, one thing I'm sure about is: The whole subplot with Atze being Christaine's first crush is simply omitted in the movie, as is Atze's OD and his suicide note. You have to keep in mind that several things were changed for the movie. Example: In the book Christiane learns about Axel's OD when she returns from a clinic or something and meets the other guys again. They say that Axel had been found in a public toilet, needle in his arm. In the movie Axel is lying dead in his bed and is discovered by Detlef and Christiane. Another example: The scene on the roof of the Europacenter never takes place in the book. This scene, by the way, cotains a goof, since the shopping center where Detlef steals the change from the lottery booth and the Europacenter (with the huge Mercedes star) are two entierely different buildings. There's no way they could take the elevator and end up on the roof of the Europacenter.
shareNo, Atze is in the film, and is credited as such. Atze is, as a former poster stated, the boy Christiane meets in the 'sound' when she goes there for the first time. He is the dark-haired guy who sits next to her in the cinema and tries to feel her up/get felt up by her.
shareAs I said, I wasn't sure about this. I haven't seen the film in a while, but just took a quick look. I was wrong about Atze's OD not being mentioned in the movie, it is mentioned at one point. But it isn't until this point that we learn which one of the guys Atze was. His picture in the newspaper is shown, so we recognize him (if we remember him from his short appearance at the beginning). But neither during the scene in the cinema, nor before or after does anyone call him by his name. Kessi asks if Atze was there when she enters the 'Sound' for the first time, but I think that's it. Bottom line: Unlike in the book, Atze is a rather insignificant character in the movie. I guess they wanted to concentrate on the relationship between Christiane and Detlef due to limited time (even though the film is pretty long they had to leave out many aspects).
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