Del mention's he'll only buy the chains from Arnie subject to a surveyors report and the consortium goes off and has them confirmed by an independent dealer, how on Earth could Arnie be sure it wouldn't be a dealer he has used already considering in Del's words "He's doing it all over the Town"
shareWell the surveyor had to be independent. If a name came up that was familiar to Arnie from previous scams he could have told Del that he knew the guy from business thus making him ineligible as independent.
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Why would Arnie use an independent dealer? Arnie is just conning the everyday man at the pub.
Besides the dealers wouldnt know it was a scam unless told by the victims
I'm not sure what you mean. Albert, Trigger and maybe even Mike might have been everyday men at the pub but Del and Boycie were not. It was Del's idea to get a 'surveyor's report' not Arnie.
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The thing that bothers me about this episode is the phonecall made by one of Arnies sons to Dels flat.
Arnie and co have already got away with the cash and gold chains, why make a fake phonecall saying Arnies dead?
It kicks off a nice scene with everyone trying to workout where he lived, but otherwise the phonecall is pretty pointless.
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The main problem with the phone call is why would a doctor have called Del anyway? They'd already been in contact with the widow as she'd taken all the belongings according to Arnie's son, and how would they have got Del's number? There's no way that one of the consortium wouldn't have had a feeling they were being had and got a bit suspicious, especially Boycie being a shyster himself.
shareVery good point.
How did the "doctor" get Del's number?
Minor niggle I suppose.
Still my favourite episode.
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I think the point of the phone call was to through Del and Co. off the scent a bit. As long as they believed that Arnie was still in hospital, they might come looking for him, or at least kept an eye out for him. If they believed he was dead, they're more likely to give up trying to find him. Finalising the scam, in a way.
Now I think about it though, the point is right. Why would Del believe it? The hospital had no reason to ring Del, they'd just have contacted his family. Small point though, as I suspect most people it would never occur to them. It never struck me as strange until I read it on this thread.
The weirdest thing for me was that Arnie seemed to be doing it around South London quite frequently. Wouldn't he eventually have run into somebody who believed him dead. I know London is a big place, but you'd think he'd move around a bit. Maybe go a bit further off North sometimes to space himself out.
shareThe jewelry was probably worth what Arnie said it was. That wasn't the scam. The scam was that Arnie would take the money, fake his death and then make it away with the jewelry and the money so he could 'sell' it to other people.
shareThe jewellery dealer had nothing to do with the trade. He might see the same chains again but he doesn't know what had happened. If Arnie got the same one twice, the dealer might not notice they are the same, or if he brought it up Arnie could say the last group ended up not buying.
I'd say Arnie's way of getting them back would fail pretty quickly. Boycie wasn't going to come up with the idea of letting him sell them to Stavros and wasn't willing to sell the chains back. He was the richest putting more than half of the money in alone. What if it had been Boycie alone making the deal? Arnie could suggest it, but it sounds better if it's the mark's own idea.
Then there's the way it would be sold to Stavros. If it had been me I wouldn't have allowed it to go the way it did. I'd suggest that I meet Stavros. Or that I go with him and be the one to hold the case. That would be the best he coud hope for, how would he get the case back then? Or I could offer to sell them back for £25000, I'm assuming that he is going to go and sell them for £25000 right away so he hasn't lost anything.
Maybe I wouldn't sell full stop. Gold is a good investment. Might not want to sell right away.
Or what if the mark is like Rodney was, "Let's sell them back with a small profit." Let's say £1000, if you are about to go and sell them for £25000 it would look insane not to buy them back for £13500. But in reality he'd be losing £1000 What if they just let him buy them back for the £12500? No profit. He doesn't lose anything but he doesn't gain either.