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The real reason why the movie underperformed at the US box office.


It is reported that Xanadu cost $12 million and pulled in $23 million at the US box office. Normally a movie has to earn 2.5 times its cost to break even. Although the film did flop at the US domestic box office due to the fact that it was only released to 25% of the original scheduled figure of 950 theatres.

However the film performed rather well at the foreign box office. So when the totals are added together the film was a success. It just wasn't promoted correctly in the US to be a domestic box office success.


The reason for the film being poorly distributed by Universal was due to the backlash by the critics at the press screening of the movie. The blame for the backlash is due to the poor handling of the project by both the scriptwriters and the producers (particularly Joel Silver).


When Xanadu wrapped initially they didn't have 2 songs filmed ("Whenever you're away from me" and "Don't walk away"). Hurriedly Joel silver got Don Bluth to shoehorn a piece of unnecessary animation for the Don't Walk Away segment whilst Gene Kelly volunteered to direct the Whenever You're Away from Me segment. It's this oversight by Silver which probably led to there not being a proper segment for the song Magic (Part of the song is played in the background whilst Kira and Danny are skating around), this is the movie's biggest travesty as Magic is arguably the best song in the movie, even Michael Jackson told ONJ in 1980 that he thought it was the best song of that year. It was producer Joel Silver who also miscast Michael Beck (a man who can't sing or dance) as the lead in the movie.

Director Robert Greenwald was probably the innocent party in all this as he never received a proper shooting script. the scriptwriters cobbled together a 7th shooting script literally on the set day by day (the other 6 versions were rejected by the studios).


Whilst a script was being forged He had to focus on shooting some of the music segments on his own initiative and making them as extravagent as possible. This explains why some of the music pieces appear over the top such as the stupid cigarette girl dancing routine, the awful Fool-Country segment (although the "fool" part was good) and the over-eccentric Dancin' segment.

Had a proper shooting script been delivered to Greenwald prior to filming he would have been given a proper overview of the whole story. This would have helped him spread his resources throughout the whole project rather than over-focusing on the music segments which resulted in some of them appearing out of place with the rest of the picture.

Although Greenwald did make a few mistakes of his own, the video segment of Suddenly was totally out of the place with the song (the same could be said for "All over the World"). Suddenly should have been filmed as a duet mimed to each other by both Beck & ONJ as the song is quite powerful. For example of this check out the "Hollywood Nights" TV special where ONJ & Cliff Richard sing the song in her apartment. The scene is both beautiful and poignant if you could mentally substitute Cliff Richard for Beck you would have the perfect segment for the Suddenly song that didn't appear in the movie. It's a pity that Gordon Silver didn't see this TV special as they might have had a second thought about the Suddenly segment and it re-shot as a duet.

It's also a pity that ONJ didn't perform "Magic" in the "Hollywood Nights" TV special as we at least would have had a decent segment for the song which also didn't appear in the finished movie.

All in all had the Xanadu producers (Gordon & Silver) done their work correctly in the beginning the film would not have been torn asounder by critics at the press screening, and of course the film would have been properly promoted by Universal in the 950 cinemas as previously planned.

Which is a great shame as ONJ deserved better.

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Very interesting trivia, there. How do you know all of this? I'm interested in reading up on all things Xanadu.

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Hi there

Much of this trivia is explained in the "Return to Xanadu" documentary on the Xanadu Magical edition DVD. And some of the conjecture in my post was made by me after viewing this documentary. Some of the information in my post was trawled from reading the Xanadu Preservation site (its a geocities webpage).


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Ahhh. I remember looking at the Xanadu Preservation Society site a long time ago. I should check it out again.

The only dvd I have of Xanadu is the one that was released by Universal back in '99. I should probably get my hands on the Magical Edition DVD before it goes OOP.


Do you know where I can see the Hollywood Nights special? I see people talking about this all the time on the internet.

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Hi Skary

I recommend you get the Magical DVD as the picture has been remastered and looks
excellent. Unfortunately the ELO songs (I'm Alive & All Over the World) don't as good as they do on the original DVD (I firmly believe that only Jeff Lynne should remaster any of the ELO songs). But I do recommend you get the DVD as the 'Return to Xanadu' documentary is excellent.

I also recommend you watch Hollywood Nights as it is an excellent special which has a lot of links to Xanadu (Gene Kelly appears, and ONJ does a duet with Cliff Richard on "Suddenly").

The special is posted on YouTube but I recommend you buy it from this guy (I did)
and the quality is excellent (I also bought the Olivia '78 special from him) :

www.spockvideo.com


You can also buy these specials on a website called www.ioffer.com but the quality may vary.

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Thanks for the info! I checked out Ioffer.com a couple of weeks ago because my boyfriend is obsessed with Diana Ross & The Supremes and there are a lot of their specials and her concerts on there. I'll check out what they have as far as Olivia is concerned. Would like to get the Olivia In Concert on DVD. I have the VHS that was released in 1989 by MCA video.

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What IS annoying is that the special edition DVD only got a US release - us in Region 2 have the basic disc only.

Just a bit annoyed when I hear about all the making-of and commentaries you lot have had.

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According to IMDB Pro, the film cost 20M to make and only grossed 10M. That's a flop. Most films these days are considered a success if they can make back 2/3 of their budgets in the theaters because the studios count on the DVD sales to pick up the rest. Back then, home video was still in its infancy, so they had to count on box office receipts to make back their investment.

The reason Xanadu was not a success, was not due to marketing, but script and casting!

All the ingredients were there, you had Olivia N John, Gene Kelly, a smart concept, great production design and an outstanding ELO soundtrack! I could have done without the overuse of the CG (yes that was CG for the day) segways (with sound effects no less, which too often distracted from the story or lack thereof!

It was a series of some great, some poor and some interesting song and dance numbers stitched together with a weak story and mundane dialog that at times was painful to listen to. All films need a basic structure and this movie barely had one. That isn't to say there weren't plenty of opportunities to create drama between the characters and the song numbers, but the writers and producer didn't seem to care. "It had OLJ and ELO in it, people will flock to see it, right?" Wrong!

The problem when a Producer with a business degree tries to run a creative project based on the feedback of "critics" no less!

Michael Beck was a poor choice for the male lead, since he really couldn't sing and there was no screen chemistry between he and Olivia - do I have to remind people of Pierce Brosnan in "Mama Mia"? Ironically I found more chemistry between Olivia and Gene, than Michael.

A perfect example of a missed opportunity is when Sonny goes into the mural to see Kira and he talks with Zeus. By the end of the sequence the audience knew that Kira was coming back. Instead we should have been left hanging, wondering if Sonny had failed and if the two would finally be allowed to be together despite of it all.

It is a film worthy of a re-make (so long as Jeff Lynne is tasked with updating his music for the film) and an update with a bit more respect for the original concept than the new "Fame" got.

Zack Efron & Vanessa Hudgens could be cast as the leads, where you have built in talent and an existing on screen chemistry.

Although, the script would require work to restore a sense of structure and be accessible to today's audiences. The best part about such a project is that the producers won't have to try to tailor it to the teen demographic to get asses in seats. There are the original fans, the music still stands up today and the concept is still fresh, despite it being poorly handled back in 1980...

My two cents....

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According to IMDB Pro, the film cost 20M to make and only grossed 10M. That's a flop. Most films these days are considered a success if they can make back 2/3 of their budgets in the theaters because the studios count on the DVD sales to pick up the rest. Back then, home video was still in its infancy, so they had to count on box office receipts to make back their investment.


Not sure where you got your sales figures from but you're wrong.

XANADU

Domestic Total Gross: $22,762,571
Distributor: Universal Release Date: August 8, 1980
Genre: Musical Running Time: 1 hrs. 36 min.
MPAA Rating: PG Production Budget: N/A

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=xanadu.htm

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According to Wikipedia, the film was originally conceived as a relatively low-budget roller disco picture. As "name" performers joined the production, it evolved into a much larger project, while retaining rollerskating as a recurring theme, especially in the final scenes of the club's opening night.
While a 10% profit on a movie is not too bad, it's not the kind of thing that cuts it in hollywood. Still the soundtrack was a resounding success, and that was what really made the movie. Still, the box office is a lot better than Meet Dave and Pluto Nash!
I was nine when the movie was released, so I couldn't say how 'out' the roller disco trend was, but compare this movie to the blockbuster musical of the summer: the Blues Brothers. The storyline wasn't as trendy and the soundtrack did pretty well.



Wikipedia Article, Xanadu:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xanadu_%28film%29

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Very interesting, yet all too typical of the Hollywood movie-by-committee system at it's worst, in combination with bad script, moronic producer decisions and a director without strong control. Probably would have been a more interesting film if left as a low-budget roller disco production.

I agree with some of your conjecture, however I don't agree about ONJ, though I think Gene Kelly deserved better. Kelly was a premier dancer of great talent. ONJ basically has an overly sweet, yet very thin voice (a feminine version of the Bee Gees) and was promoted as some sort of innocent yet sexually arousable girl-next-door fantasy, since Grease. I personally do not find her interesting and would much rather listen to, and see for that matter, full-bodied vocalists like Grace Slick, Debby Harry and certainly Janis Joplin. All of those ladies could sing circles around ONJ.

I do think Michael Beck was terribly miscast, and that was ruinous to the film. Who knows what they were thinking when he was chosen. I kept wondering what goods he had on the producers. Would love to see the screen tests of all persons who applied for that role.

Wildly popular in San Francisco screenings, I read here. Not surprised at that, and imagine a double-bill with Can't Stop the Music in Frisco. Sort of quashes the stereotype that gay men always have good taste.

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Hilarious. Even in her autobigraphy Grace Slick admits to being a singer of very limited talent. She can sing loud but not soft (which explains the necessity of Marty Balin and later Mickey Thomas).

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You make many good points that I agree with, but I really disagree with this paragraph.

When Xanadu wrapped initially they didn't have 2 songs filmed ("Whenever you're away from me" and "Don't walk away"). Hurriedly Joel silver got Don Bluth to shoehorn a piece of unnecessary animation for the Don't Walk Away segment whilst Gene Kelly volunteered to direct the Whenever You're Away from Me segment. It's this oversight by Silver which probably led to there not being a proper segment for the song Magic (Part of the song is played in the background whilst Kira and Danny are skating around), this is the movie's biggest travesty as Magic is arguably the best song in the movie, even Michael Jackson told ONJ in 1980 that he thought it was the best song of that year. It was producer Joel Silver who also miscast Michael Beck (a man who can't sing or dance) as the lead in the movie.
For one thing I don't think "Magic" is all that great a song, but even on its own merits it does not mean that a segment using it would be any better than poor segments which are in the film that do showcase good songs. On the other hand I think the two best segments in the entire film are the ones you seem to think were after-thoughts that should be left out.

Oh Lord, you gave them eyes but they cannot see...

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