Care to explain?


Before I start, I may as well say that this is not an attempt to troll. I am genuinely interested in hearing other people's points of view on this.

I'd just like to ask what makes this movie so great? I understand that some movies apply to some people more than others, but what makes people say that this is the best movie ever? I thought it was vaguely amusing at times, but the final battle was bordering on stupidity, and the ending felt extremely abrupt and out of place, and made very little sense. According to some people, the ending was supposed to draw a parallel between the parents and evil or something, but if that is the case, it's no wonder it skimmed over the heads of so many people. After over an hour of mediocre slapstick, I was in no state to look for deeper meaning, and I was certainly unaware that there was any to find.

So seriously, what makes this movie so great?

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You got me. I wouldn't list this movie as "great." It's definitely noteworthy. It is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen, which I guess is to be expected when members of the Python gang are involved. But as far as cult films go, I wouldn't place this among the best ones. Maybe it needed a musical number...

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It DID have a musical number. They performed "Me And My Shadow" for Napoleon. It's silliness for silliness sake. It was a great movie when I was a kid, and I thought it was very funny. David Warner is one of my favorite actors. I guess seeing the movie first as a child has a lot to do with it.

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Dwarves time hopping on a crime spree... can go any where and any when... whats not to like?

I think you have to see it as a collection of idea's and possibilities as opposed to a classic kids film. I loved it as a child, even though I didn't get half the intended jokes. It was that feeling of endless possibility in the hands of such deeply flawed, but likable characters.

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if you dont see it as a kid, there is no point watching as an adult, because you look for too much, as a kid you are just sucked into a fantasy, and its amazing! Thankfully i saw it as a 5 year old, and now just watch it with the memories. I can imagine seeing for the first time as an adult though and not getting it. When i was 5 it was time bandits, return of the jedi, and raiders of the lost ark that were on TV on christmas day! Thats why its important to that generation.

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I completely agree. I first saw this when i was about six or seven and it simply blew me away. I still remember the massive sense of dissapointment when i discovered that not one wall in my whole house had a secret time tunnel hidden in it!
I guess with all the CGI in later films this probably comes off as "quaint" at the very best.
Like all classics of a generation this belongs to nostalgia...

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I don't think it is great. But watching it, I can say it is visually very impressive.

I mean, as a film-maker, Gilliam has really gone out there, taken things that existed only in his wild imagination, and made them 'real' on screen. OK, I know all films do that - but most films are set in houses, offices, streets etc. If you think about each individual scene in this film, whether it is the bedroom wall stretching away into the distance, the giant walking along with the boat on his head, or the dwarves dangling in cages over the bottomless chasm, or whatever... Imagine having these things explained to you in words, and then imagine being told to go away and film them! Not easy. But these people did that, and did it well - and they did it in 1981 when CGI was in its infancy.

Now, as it happens it's not my kind of thing. I personally prefer films set in homes, offices, streets, etc. (if they are done wel). But I can see that this is an impressive piece of work, visually. It's clever, different and very well done. And that's not a bad combination of assets. Better than another Police Academy movie, certainly. 8=)
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One of the greatest things I still find about the film, even as an adult, is its ability to illustrate some really significant philosophical and sociological points in such a light-hearted, imaginative way. I honestly don't think there is a single part of the film lacking an important message, despite being so ridiculous. If you look closely at some of the symbolism and dialogue in the film, they all reiterate the fundamental ideas: the flaws of mankind (namely greed, arrogance, selfishness) that are all encouraged by a capitalist society and which eventually overshadow and corrupt the innocence of childhood.
The idea that we don't need material possessions to be happy is suggested to children and adults alike in a fantastical and magical way and I think the greatness of the film lies in its ability to entertain, but also to suggest some really important points.

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I completely agree!

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Some people like it, some don´t; some think it is the greatest film ever made, some think it´s a piece of *beep*
That´s all there is to it.
So don´t start idiotic threads arguing over taste. It´s a waste of time. Very likely the very things that caused some people to love it, caused you to hate it. What´s the big deal. Come back when you got something interesting or original to say.

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