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How obvious was the ending?


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I can't believe the killer was the guy who was tormented at the start of the film. Is this the most obvious "twist" ever? Up until the final reveal I thought the film was OK but when the mask was removed and the reveal was made I couldn't believe it was so obvious. Very lazy writing.

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Maybe this was not supposed to be a Twist Slasher Film, but just a Revenge Slasher. Or yes, the writer just wasn't trying very hard. It had to have been Kenny.

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I don't think the twist was supposed to be "OMG it's Kenny after all", I think they wanted us to know it was Kenny, BUT they wanted us to think the Magician was Kenny. The twist was that Kenny was the Magician's "female" assistant after all.

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Yeah but how could the magician possibly be Kenny when they look nothing alike???

I guess maybe people do think that the actor and David Copperfield resemble each other but not to me..

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Yeah but how could the magician possibly be Kenny when they look nothing alike???

Probably thought he had plastic surgery or something.

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kjwilsom110 wrote:
"Yeah but how could the magician possibly be Kenny when they look nothing alike???"

You're not paying attention. Kenny wasn't the magician. Kenny was the female assistant.

That was the plot twist.


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No; I understand that but the characters of Jamie Lee Curtis and the other kid thought that the magician was Kenny. My quesion is why would they think that same kid could possibly turn out looking like David Copperfield??? They knew what Kenny looked like....

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i agree with you kjwilson, i wondered what that was all about.... i mean i understand if they had been at school together when they were 10 or something and it had been years, but the "prank" was only 3 years ago, seemed kinda odd that they thought it was him when they looked nothing alike at all.....

as for the twist, the funniest thing is that i said to my housemate, "thats a man!" in one of the "performance" scenes, but yet still didnt think for one moment that it was actually kenny in disguise.... should've realised really!

as for the film, i enjoyed it, but i didnt find it suspenseful in the slightest, maybe i just didnt care enough about the characters!

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As soon as they prominently showed the assistant in the "reappearance" scene, I said, "That's a man, baby!"

LOL it was clearly the scraggly kid from the beginning.

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Oh, sorry... Well, I think our viewpoint is based on how well we recognize David Copperfield. If he was just another unknown acter like Derik McKinnon it might have been a bit more believable. They were about the same size... and they hadn't seen Kenny for three years... n' he was a late bloomer? I don't know.

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That's what to me was good about it.I actually thought Kenny was the magician.But when we saw he was pretending to be the female assistant,I thought that was brilliant.I mean how could you make a film like this and not have Kenny get his revenge?But to me it was the way they went about how they hid his identity.To me that was original and different.

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No, the twist is that it was...



SPOIL-effin-ER ALERT!


It was the assistant. I would have never guessed the assistant, but I thought maybe...just maybe the killer was David Copperfield, and somehow he just looked different. The thing that made it confusing was the masks, everyone kept switching masks and costumes, so after a while I lost track of the characters and they all became faceless.

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"I can't believe the killer was the guy who was tormented at the start of the film"

I can't believe the killer wasn't the guy who was tormented at the start of the film. Seems like every slasher needs to add some lame twist at the end.....it's nice to see one where they play it out for what it is and not have some absurd twist were it is someone else doing the killing.

It wasn't a "who dunnit" and it's a shame you have mistaken it as such.

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It was a cheesy script. Nothing new here. It was blah.

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Exactly!Who else was supposed to be the killer then?Jamie Lee Curtis?She was the only one who felt terribly bad about what they did to Kenny.

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I wonder what the OP expected? I don't believe this was meant to be a twist or a big shock.

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If you watch the film again maybe you'll catch the scene where Jamie Lee kicks Kenny off the train after their confrontation -- the "twist" of the scene where he unmasks himself was that he didn't fall off & die at all. The earlier "twist" was that Kenny was a female impersonator pretending to be the magician's assistant. And it is as one person points out a "revenge slasher" rather than a hidden identity twist ending slasher.

The magician was set up by the script as a red herring, specifically in the scene where he uses the switchblade to pick up the card that Doc had written his name on. I'm not sure that the audience was necessarily supposed to believe that Kenny and the magician were the same person, only suspect that the magic subtext had something to do with the killer's motives -- and the obvious suspect would be the magician himself. I agree that David Copperfield and the actor playing Kenny don't look much alike, especially when you are watching the movie on home video or DVD & have the luxury of repeat viewings.

In a theater type setting where you can't stop or go back during a first-time viewing however it's a different matter. We never really get a a good look at Kenny's face for too long, he's shown wearing those big glasses and pretty much all you would really know about him is that he was skinny and had dark hair.

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Besides fact that the magician looked NOTHING like the weird-looking Kenny guy they punked, if you read the credits, the magician's name was also Ken. Yeah, huh, what are the odds? (Can't wait for sequel: TERROR SOUL TRAIN with RuPaul as Kenny! Or Michael Jackson.)

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It was obvious, but at the same time it was also very unpredictable.

Obvious because it had to be Kenny, otherwise the prank at the beginning wouldn't have made sense, yet it was very unpredictable because the writers were playing with us - we didn't know who exactly Kenny was. Was it the magician, or someone else?

That's the thing. We were supposed to assume it was Kenny, but the actual twist was who was Kenny exactly.

Loved the movie! Definitely one of the best 80's slashers.

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WOW YOU REALLY LEFT OUT THE BIGGEST TWIST ON THE WHOLE ENDING.I MEAN COME ON NOW HOW COULD YOU NOT FIGURE OUT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN KENNY?I MEAN THEY NEVER SAID IF HE DIED OR NOT.BUT,THE TWIST WAS AT THE END WHEN HE ENDED UP BEING WHO HE WAS.DON'T TELL ME THAT DIDN'T FOOL YOU?

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I don't think it's meant to be a mystery. They try and throw you off in the final act making it seem Copperfield was the killer, but besides that I think you are meant to know

Wait a minute, who am I here?

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