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Self-conscious belief and Rachmaninoff?


The idea in this movie is to remove anything related to your time in order to believe it's 1912. My question is how can he get away from humming a piece of music from 1934? Isn't that automatically thinking of something past late June of 1912?

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I gather it had to be something physical to put him back to the present day.

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Great observation!

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"The idea in this movie is to remove anything related to your time in order to believe it's 1912. My question is how can he get away from humming a piece of music from 1934? Isn't that automatically thinking of something past late June of 1912?"
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No. It's not. The most important part is that he BELIEVES he is there. That's all that matters.

Nobody hears that piece and goes "oh...1934."


That scene in question is actually by design.....it is supposed to be that way. And there is nothing to suggest Richard is conscious it wasn't composed yet.

It is important to know the dialogue in the scene and the fact that Rachmaninoff was already well known before 1912.

He tells her it is RACHMANINOFF

She stated she loves his music, but never heard that piece before...............This scene is supposed to remind the audience and add a sense of spookyness, that Richard is traveled through time to be there.



Imagine they used a piece composed in earlier than 1912............that entire scene is totally pointless. She is supposed to not know the piece, because.......it wasn't composed yet.



Although it was composed in 1934....from reading, the piece was heavily influence by certain 1800s composers and by specific elements of certain pieces from earlier 1800s.........apparently a specific early 1800s piece by Mozart............and the name itself of the piece....." on a theme of Paginini "




I read someone also criticized this movie for having some stage props from the 1920s.......and not 1910s LOL.

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Agreed. I've been familiar with the Rapsody since the 1960s, but I've never been aware of the year it was composed until reading this thread. I was a symphony musician for years, but it is still a rare thing when I know a date when any classical piece was composed. Listening to the music, I'm generally aware of the style and century it might have been composed in, but certainly not any specific date. Given the style of the Rapsody, it could have been composed anytime after the late 1800s.

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