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How did Kubrick get away with the "nigger cook" line?


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Tarantino got away with that word a LOT in his movies and he's still highly revered.

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Right but it was the characters who used it, not the actors and within the context of the film it should not have been condoned. Also I'm pretty sure most of the people who used it are people who we the audience are not supposed to root for anyways, it's just like in A Time To Kill: Keifer Sutherland and Kurtwood Smith say it but it's not the actors saying it it is the characters and those are people who we are not supposed to have any respect for anyways.

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Technically, there are no rules or laws against using that word in a film. It's solely the filmmaker's decision.

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People didn't melt down over things like that back then. The character who said it was from a time when racism was considered "normal" and he was speaking as a product of his time.

Anyway, if a version of this movie was made exactly the same, except using an all-black cast, and the "bad guy" character said, "Cracker" or "honkey" nobody would care.

And don't give me the "it's not the same" bullshit. When racist black people say it about white people, is is meant in the same hostile way.

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Exactly and it exposes them as blatant hypocrites, how can they expect anyone to have respect for them when they won't respect others or themselves?

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Same how most of Hollywood got away with it counting 2002 down to the early 70's era there was more social tolerance towards it. It's racist line but it's still a movie.

Today's "Hollywood" standards are different but we have more aggressive social idealism going on now not to mention financial hunger, Hollywood isn't as bold as it was years ago.

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what movie from 2002 had this word?

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I am astonished that this is even questioned. In context the word "nigger" is spoken by two characters; one is the malevolent ghost, Grady, and the other is Jack, a disturbed man coming under the influence of evil forces. And, at that, there's something a little uncertain in the way Jack Torrance replies with the word - as though it was not natural to him.
So fucked up characters say fucked up things...
It's not like there's a little chat between the family members on the way to the Overlook - "Gee honey, it'll be nice to get away from the niggers for a while" "Yes dear. I really hate those niggers."

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If you watch the scene and the context of the character of Delbert Grady you'd understand why he'd use such a word with conviction.

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This movie was made in the late 1970's and released in summer 1980. Not that tough. And, it is spoken by an evil spirit who slaughtered his family. Plus, Tarantino can throw that word around 100 times a movie and no one blinks.

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