Ok, this is not a bad movie, but it is an 8/10. Rocky is 9/10. In my opinion, rocky was more engaging, and had a better story, not better acting, but it was definitely a better overall film. I just don't get the critical praise of this movie. What is it about this movie that makes it #4 on the AFI top 100 movies? Please explain this to me.
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Rocky is not in the same league as Raging Bull. If you can not see why, you are blind.
shareOkay, I'm blind. Can you explain to me why you think that, or are you just going to throw insults at people? Please explain to me why you think that.
"What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?"
Raging Bull is nothing but a polished turd! Good production value and a garbage story. The script flat out sucks! Jake LaMotta runs around cussing up a storm, slapping people around and then feels sorry for himself once his friends and family try to leave him? Wow! That is so enlightening! Don't even get me started on the fighting sequences in RB.. Annoyed Cow is more like it. Ten roundhouse left hooks in a row.. Gimme a break. Then a 20 year old woman is supposed to pass as a 15 year old with a husky voice.. Great casting there! Lol. I can't stop laughing at the people who treat this movie seriously. Pesci said it best.. But he should have switched it around.. "This movie sucks big fat elephant...."
Rocky on the other hand is one of the greatest underdog stories of all time.. If not the greatest. A street level film with an inventive blue collar script, a timeless score, phenomenal acting and perfect pacing.. Not to mention, the characters aren't one dimensional like in the Annoyed Cow.
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shareYou don't get the critical praise of this movie, yet you rate it an 8/10? That's a pretty good rating if you ask me. Rocky is a fantastic film, no argument there, but I personally felt more involved in Raging Bull, I felt that I could relate to the characters better than I could with Rocky. Also a better script, and DeNiro blew Stallone out of the water acting-wise.
shareIt's a great movie in so many ways. First of all, it's great TECHNICALLY. The editing & the cinematography & the music & the acting & the sound production are all groundbreaking. Secondly, the BALLS it took to make this movie. The fact that they were willing to make the protagonist so unlikable is unprecedented. Which brings up Thirdly. You have to get over Jake being so unlikable (I know it's hard because that's what we've all been spoonfed by Hollywood since Day One). But if you can get to a point where you can see Jake as a product of his environment instead of just some *beep* then you'll feel sorry for him & maybe even identify with him & you'll be rewarded in a way that you've never been rewarded from a movie. The same force that made him a champion (and made him beloved) is the same force that destroyed him & those around him (and made him hated). I love this movie.
shareI feel that Rocky created the genre, and Raging Bull enhanced the genre. May I also add, Raging bull is more of a drama about a man who got so high in clouds that he took advantage of everything he loved, than it is an underdog / wrestling tale.
shareI agree. Many years ago when I was a prentious film student I would have balked at your evaluation but having seen this again recently, despite having acting and directing that is up there with the best of ANY era from all concerned, I found Jake Le Motta to be far too repugnant for me to become engaged in the story or anything that ever happened to him. Some of my favourite films ever contain deeply flawed characters and anti-hero's like Travis Bickle, Colonel Kurtz and Alex from A Clockwork Orange but Jake was a real life person and what was he? From the film, the impression I got that triggered his ambition as a boxer is he liked beating people up including his brother and wife who worked their asses off for him. Not to mention child sex trafficking. This guy was just so full of hatred for everybody and because of this, he ended up as a loser. Of course this is the point but in no way does this represent sport and the boxing profession in any way. Rocky does seem to represent the profession much better and Balboa was actually a decent and passionate human being. I guess Raging Bull is comforting in that it shows a guy who is a total *beep* finally reaping what he sows.
What's more, La Motta in an interview stated that after seeing the film with his wife she said he was actually worse than that in real life.
In short, Raging Bull is an outstandingly well made film based on a terrible excuse for a human being who had complete disregard for anyone around him. For me it ceazes to even be a tragedy, everything bad that happened to Jake was karma plain and simple. *beep* him.
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Apples to oranges comparison because Rocky is a fictitious character. Jake was real.
shareNah. I love both movies, but I prefer Raging Bull's gritty realism.
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