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Neil Diamond in blackface


That seemed a bit daring to me, even for 1980.

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It's quite entertaining, isn't it? If anyone can bring blackface back, it's Neil Diamond. But then again ... maybe not.

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My ma gasped when she saw that scene at the cinema. I think she thought he was going to be in blackface for all of his performances. Thankfully, he wasn't!

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That would have been bizarre had he been in blackface for all the performances. Maybe it's an homage to the original "Jazz Singer"?

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So, in Holiday Inn, Bing Crosby (et al) was also in black face for Lincoln's Birthday.

And Boy George had a black face "jury" in the original uncut video Do You Wanna Hurt Me (which caused quite a ruckus).

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"Blackface" implies a makeup job where a white actor plays the part of a black man, usually to play an unflattering stereotypical character that a black wouldn't willingly play. While Diamond's character was indeed wearing makeup, it was to hide the fact that a white boy was sitting in on his black friend's group in order to help them, not demean them. Subtle difference, but not offensive to me. Intent is the operative word here..

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That's an excellent distinction, strntz. He did it to fit in, not to stand out.

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Yes, that's exactly right. What's actually amusing about it is that Diamond was basically doing what many black singers did in the 40s and 50s, straightening out their hair and so forth, in order to increase their appeal to white audiences. The scene in this film was the exact photonegative of that.

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What I found most unbelievable about that whole scene is that the audience thought he was black. I think any real black audience would have known right away he wasn't. Neil Diamond doesn't sound black at all.

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Neil Diamond doesn't sound black at all.


Really?

I guess I understand your point and I believe you're being truthful, but African-Americans are not genetically predisposed to speaking "black". Did Nat Cole or Sammy Davis Jr. sound black?

I have spoken to people on the phone before later meeting them in person. I noticed a lot of subtle surprise when I introduced myself. I don't sound "black" either, nor have I ever worn my pants below the crack of my ass. Not all black people talk the same way. I do wish young blacks would emulate Obama's speaking and mannerisms (not his politics though).




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I was referring to his singing.

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And it's 7 years later, I'm still here, and boy how things have changed.

At 61, I'm old enough to know real racism, but not old enough to experience what my parents did. In the old days, white performers would put on black face to demean our people - and that was truly hurtful to see.

By the late 70s or so, the old generation died out and folks pretty much stopped getting upset over stupid things like someone wearing "blackface". Movies and TV shows, once afraid to even mention race at all, suddenly found humor in our cultural differences. Watch the old All In The Family or The Jeffersons or Sanford and Son. We got over our petty differences.

In The Jazz Singer, Jess didn't wear the overly exaggerated and stereotypical "blackface" of the early 20th century. He didn't smack his lips and say "Lordy Lordy!" or run from ghosts. He simply disguised himself as one of his friends to sit in with their group, and since it was a black group, used shoe polish or something else to darken his complexion. Don't see the difference? That's the problem today.

Now suddenly, we're all offended if someone dresses up in costume as their favorite black entertainer or athlete.

Eddie Murphy played several white characters over his career. Were whites offended? I don't think so, but he didn't do it to intentionally demean or insult whites. He did it for humor. Was Neil Diamond's black character meant to demean or insult blacks? Not to me.

Where has America gotten so screwed up where we're now expected to pitch a fit over a 20 year old picture someone took, or perhaps this very movie? Everything must wound us deeply. We all must take offense at everything.

Sad.

It won't surprise me if the scene with Neil Diamond in black makeup gets edited out of any future TV screenings.

America is dying folks, and it's sad to watch.

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Will it be next on the cancel list?

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There is nothing safe anymore.

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Thank you. That was clear, concise and very well said. It seems that everyone now is just looking for something to get upset about.

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Actually he looks more like the new Jan Brady! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nHkOKYht98

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