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Why isn't this in the Top 250? Its weighted average is high enough amd it has more than the minimum number of required votes.

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It needs a LOT more votes and a slightly higher rating to make it on the list.

I've got a foot on the end of my arm

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yeah although 7.8 makes it into the top 250...it needs to go through the magical maths formula
this formula brings down movies with less than 10 000 votes and brings up movies with more than 10 000 votes

other films which arent in because of this...
once were warriors
25th hour
barry lyndon

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One of my favorite movies of all time. Morant's poetry was a nice touch. When he finally had enough in the court and replied that the prisoner was executed under "Rule 303" I wondered how many other people realized that this was the caliber of his rifle. Top notch stuff.

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When he finally had enough in the court and replied that the prisoner was executed under "Rule 303" I wondered how many other people realized that this was the caliber of his rifle.

Morant loses his cool in the above mentioned scene, however, he hasn't completely given up on the case until Colonel Hamilton tells the court that he cannot recollect any orders being given to execute boer prisoners. Morant exclaims 'Your a lier!' or 'Thats a lie!' (I can't remember which off the top of my head) it is in this scene that Morant realises he has been betrayed by the nation he was serving.

Morants biblical referance at the end - Matthew X, 36, ties in with this 'A mans foe shall be they of his own household'.

Being a pagan is it intersting that Morant can quote a chapter, verse and passage from the bible off hand - even the priest has too look it up!

At the time of Morants exclamation of the prisoners being executed under rule 3 0 3, it is interesting to note that Denny does not tell Morant to sit down or calm down. There is a reason to this - and it ties in with the court case being weighted in favor of the prosecution - in that Morant exclaiming this actually damages the defenses case. It shows that Morant can lose his temper quite easily, which could have lead him to rush to judgement (think of the first charge against the men).

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Morant knows the passage because his father must've raised him strictly. He does say they read Bunyan's Pilgrim's Progress for FUN as a child :o)

This should be in the top 250, but who cares if it's not in some list that has Spiderman and American Beauty in it?



Do The Mussolini! Headkick!

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They immediately follow that line with a shot of the side of a rifle with .303 clearly embossed on it, there was a little help.

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I just applied the formula to Breaker Morant and the result shows why it's just under the top 250...

Heres the working anyway...

(2,279 / (2,279 + 1,250)) * 7.8 + (1,250 / (2,279 + 1,250)) * 6.9 = 7.5 (lowest score on the top 250 is 7.7)

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Question, it's easy for me to assume that it was big in Australia, but did it have a similar following in other countries? I don't think it was big in the US - I never heard of it until my professor showed it in our History of Film course. Just wondering because the lack of votes is most likely the reason it isn't in the top 250. But I really really like it so I'm definitely voting high on ratings. I'm glad my professor showed us this film.

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Someone said the number of votes is a factor for ranking. That's reasonable, but it's very apparent that the age of the film is a major influence on the number of votes. So I'd like to see the number-of-votes factor modified by the film's age.*

Without this change, older movies are penalized when it comes to making the Top 250.

* or perhaps release-date so that we aren't dealing with the constantly changing age.

When I do a power search to find, e.g., the best SF films ever, I'll search years in groups and specify different "minimum votes" for older films. For example, I may search 1940's and 50's with minimum at 1000, and then search 1960's and 70's with minimum at 2000.

The number of votes is a factor for ranking in the Top 250. But it's very apparent that the age of the film is a major influence on the number of votes. It might be more "fair" to have the number-of-votes factor modified by the film's age (or year it was made).

Without this change, older movies are penalized when it comes to their ranking re the Top 250.

When I do a power search to find, e.g., the best SF films ever, I'll search years in groups and specify different "minimum votes" for older films. For example, I may search 1940's and 50's with minimum at 1000, and then search 1960's and 70's with minimum at 2000.

Trivia (As of Aug 12, 2005):

1. 50 of the Top 250 movies were released in the year 2000 or later. That's a span of a little over 5 1/2 years! Of course, new movies frequently start high and then slowly slide down or off the list.

2. Of the movies with at least 50,000 votes:
--- there were a total of five in all the years before 1970 (three in the 60's & two in the 40's). Can you name them?
--- there were 54 movies with 50k votes from 1990-2005

3. to make the Top 250, a movie must get at least 1250 votes.
--- In all the years 1931 and before there were only 28 movies of any kind with 1250 votes
--- in 2004 alone, 1250 or more votes were given to 26 Sci Fi movies, 36 adventure movies, 30 crime movies, 87 comedies, ... (I didn't check all the genres). And 26 of those got 20,000 or more votes!






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I don't care about the math or whatever. This is DEFINITELY one of the top 250 films of all time. Easily. Unquestionably. No doubt.

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for sure. 



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