why bother REFITTING the ENTERPRISE?
Might as well have just started from scratch.
shareBecause millions of geek/dweebs would have marched on Paramount Pictures and assimilated every executive associated with this project....
shareI always loved the original... When I was a kid I didn't like the changes... I understand now... Just wondered how much of the original ship would have been left
shareThe real answer is that they wanted to supe up the old girl for the new series Star Trek Phase 2, which was a little less drastic. But with the new movie decision came Douglas Trumbull and the end refit was significantly different, which was woven into the storyline.
And yeah, fans would have gone ballistic if the ship design were too radically changed, or even if it was a different ship. The Enterprise was a character, not just a ship.
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I remember being very disappointed / upset at ALL the changes upon seeing in the theater when I was 6. The music, the uniforms, Spock's long hair, Scotty's mustache, THE ENTERPRISE, that thing on Shatner's head...
Does anyone remember the teaser commercials that actually had clips from the TV series? (like Kirk running into the door)
Does anyone remember the teaser commercials that actually had clips from the TV series? (like Kirk running into the door)
No. Is that on Youtube somewhere?
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Which is what made TOS so unique in terms of how the ship was viewed. And what made her destruction so traumatic.
You got the idea that Picard was captaining Enterprise out of duty, but that his real love was the Stargazer. For Kirk, it was Enterprise.
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> I always loved the original... When I was a kid I didn't like the changes... I understand now... Just wondered how much of the original ship would have been left
I know it's just a fictional starship and all, but I have also wondered how much of the original ship was left since they did a "refit" and didn't build a whole new ship. I mean, it was so different - new engines, new computer, new systems, new bridge, corridors, etc.
Maybe the only thing left was just the core structural frame which somehow avoided rust and metal fatigue, and was adapted to be support more substantional body around it.
Because the ship in TOS is so much of a character herself (Kirk's true love), it's important that her "soul" remain. The updated ship had to look essentially the same, even with the understanding that she's had a major update.
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Maybe the only thing left was just the core structural frame which somehow avoided rust and metal fatigue, and was adapted to be support more substantional body around it.I wouldn't expect a 300-years-in-the-future starship to be built from any material that can rust. I wouldn't even expect it to be built from metal at all. I would expect a carbon nanotube-based material, or maybe something even more exotic which is yet to be discovered. Plus the ship has "inertial dampeners", and that would prevent stresses from rapid acceleration and changes in direction.
But even if it were built from some type of metal, metal fatigue is only a problem if the stresses exceed the design. There are plenty of antique cars that people still drive around, some of which are over 100 years old, which have their original mild-steel frames and other structural parts. There are very old steel bridges and steel-framed skyscrapers still standing too.
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All good points. There was me thinking like an outdated 21st century kinda person.
Despite the inertial dampeners it seems they still get thrown around and shaken often in each type of ship.
Yes, when under attack the inertial dampeners seem to go on the blink somewhat (which is mighty convenient for dramatic purposes), but since it is only a tiny amount of inertial change that gets through, even under heavy attack (enough to make people stumble or fall, not enough to make them splatter against a wall), it shouldn't affect such a large ship's structure. Even a lethargic public transportation bus can accelerate or change direction fast enough to make you stumble or fall if you're standing up and caught off guard, and the fastest-accelerating cars we have can accelerate at up to 8g (top fuel dragsters).
When operating normally, the inertial dampeners seem to be 100% effective, or very close to it, because they can accelerate to insane speeds almost instantly while people are just casually standing around. Full "impulse speed" is a significant percentage of light speed (for example: "The 'Star Trek Voyager Technical Manual' page 13 has full impulse listed as ¼ of the speed of light"), and it would take a very long time to safely accelerate to such a speed without inertial dampeners. Accelerating from a standstill to 0.25c in e.g., 1 second would be 7,590,909g acceleration. If they took a whole day (24 hours) to accelerate to 0.25c, it would be 88g. It only takes a few tens of gs to cause injury, and about 60g would most likely be fatal. Without inertial dampeners they would have to take about a week to accelerate to 0.25c safely, and it would still be very intense (about 12.6g).
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Hey, the word "assimilate" didn't exist back then! The Borg invented it!
Also, Spock stole "resistance is futile" from them!
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