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What’s the best version of Rhapsody in Blue available on CD?


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EASILY;

Leonard Bernstein's 1959 version with the CBS orchestra. In stereo, full sound, just amazing. He conducts and plays piano and get's it perfectly. It's just perfect.

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I agree 100% with dbarrios15..

My late Parents gave me the vinyl version of Bernstein's virtuoso 1959 performance of "Rhapsody in Blue" (b/w "An American in Paris"), with Bernstein conducting (and playing the piano sections with) The Columbia Symphony Orchestra as a birthday gift when I was about ten.. in 1959.. that album is still a treasured possession.. it's the first version / recording of the MANY I own of "Rhapsody in Blue", and still my favorite.. the Gold standard, by which I judge all other performances.. unfortunately, it's not the one Woody Allen chose to use in his film..

Yes, I have, and have heard Gershwin's piano roll "recording".. and Oscar Levant's (who, after Bernstein, was probably the second best interpreter of Gershwin)..

As dbarrios15 said a year ago, Bernstein "gets it perfectly." His tempo is not rushed, like so many others' I've heard.. his conducting's pacing and piano performance has an unforgettable confidence and swaggar to it, perfectly befitting Gerswin's masterpiece..

The spectacular 1959 recording, remastered using 20-bit technology, is available on the Sony label, as a 1997 CD (cat. # SMK 63086), entitled "Bernstein Century", which includes the Rhapsody, "An American in Paris", and Grofe's "The Grand Canyon Suite" (Bernstein with the NY Philharmonic).. thrown in as a bonus.. it should still be available..

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I have also a fantastic recording done a few years ago by the San Francisco Symphony under maestro Michael Tilson Thomas with Garrick Ohlsson playing piano. Ohlsson is a phenomenal virtuoso and the SFSO recorded the album in high definition to a super-audio CD. The sound quality is understandably amazing.

"Deserve's got nothin' to do with it."

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I know the exact recording you're talking about, and I love it! I just want to say that it's Michael Tilson Thomas is the one playing the piano during Rhapsody in Blue; Garrick Ohlsson plays the Piano Concerto in F. This is, perhaps, the finest recording of the concerto I've ever heard, and the Rhapsody in Blue is very vibrant and...experimentally interpreted. It is a great recording, but by no means a standard recording.

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Without question it's the version played by Gershwin himself, recorded in 1971 (give or take a year) on a modern reproducing Steinway from the piano roll he cut in 1925, with a small jazz orchestra conducted by Michael Tilson Thomas for CBS records. Nothing else comes even close to being the way Gershwin wrote it, intended it to be performed, and played it with his own hands. If you've never heard George Gershwin play the Rhapsody, then you've never really heard it done correctly.

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Gershwin died in 1937....so how did he record it in 1971? Plus, it sounds incomplete if it's not done with a full orchestra.

My favorite version is with the Chicago symphony, James Levine conducting and Grofe at the piano.

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As I stated in my original post, the 1971 recording is from a piano roll Gershwin cut in 1925. He was very much alive in 1925. And it doesn't sound "incomplete" without a full orchestra; it sounds like the piece Gershwin wrote, which was intended, and originally performed, with a small orchestra. Gershwin playing his own piece the way he intended it to be played cannot be improved upon.

Besides, most full orchestras and conductors perform it at too slow a tempo. It's a jazz piece, not a symphony piece.

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I understand what you are saying. However, I am entitled to my opinion. I like the sound of a larger orchestra because it fits the character of New York City. Larger than life.
I have since listened to that 1971 version. While I like parts of it, I find some parts so inconceivably fast that notes and harmonies from other recordings seem to be missing because they go by so quickly. I like listening to Gerhswin playing it himself because I know that was how it was intended to be, but I still prefer the Levine recording for its dramaticism.

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Of course any discussion of "best" recording ultimately comes down to subjective personal preference, and I suspect most such preferences are conditioned by what one is most accustomed to hearing. I prefer the Gershwin performance not only because it's played at the correct tempo ("correct" because it's what Gershwin himself intended) but also because it's played as a jazz piece, with a jazz ensemble. A full symphony orchestra simply clutters the beautiful lines of something that was written for only fifteen instruments (or so -- I don't recall the exact number). Reduplication of various harmonic structures in multiple voices makes the symphonic version sound rather muddy to me; the smaller ensemble allows each voice to come through clearly. Also, most symphonic versions replace the gong with cymbals, which is simply offensive to the ears; they just don't sound right at all.

All of which is merely my opinion, of course. I'm aware that most people have heard the Rhapsody only in its symphonic, full-orchestra form, and it still has the power to evoke emotion. But after first hearing it performed by Gershwin as it was written, there was simply no comparison for me. Just my own, personal, subjective preference.

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Just stumbling around IMDb and came across this discussion... (elbows up to the bar and says)

Gershwin himself! That song is one of a few that I listen to over and over.
I hope my mp3's don't wear out like my vinyl and tape versions did! ;-)

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the orchestral attempts at perfection, but Georgie
did it the best!

"I love New York in June - how 'bout you?"
"I love a Gershwin tune - how 'bout you?"

"New York's on bammy's bankrupting list"
"Not that all of it will really be missed" :-P

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Check out a 2006 release by Michael Camilo called "Rhapsody in Blue." It's the perfect comtemporary recording of this musical masterpiece.

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Nothing else comes even close to being the way Gershwin wrote it, intended it to be performed

What Gershwin wrote was a piano manuscript, which Ferde Grofe took and and converted into an orchestra piece. So to say that Gershwin intended it to be played one way or another is inaccurate. He had not yet learned orchestral arrangement when he wrote this piece. The large orchestra versions are my favorite.

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Gershwin wrote it specifically for performance at the 1924 jazz concert "An Experiment In Modern Music" organized by Whiteman. At that time, Grofe took Gershwin's dual-piano score and, in consultation with Gershwin, arranged and scored the piece for a small jazz ensemble (Paul Whiteman's jazz band with a few added strings). It was, as I have said, a JAZZ piece, specifically commissioned and written for a JAZZ concert to be performed by a JAZZ band.

The later, slowed-down and overly lush Grofe arrangement for full symphony orchestra did not come along until 1942, 18 years after the Rhapsody was written and first performed, and 5 years after Gershwin's death. But the original piece, as written and envisioned by Gershwin, was for a jazz ensemble, commissioned specifically for a jazz performance. It was not intended for a full symphony in its original conception and incarnation. So as I have said, the version performed by Gershwin himself on the 1925 piano roll, later recorded using the ORIGINAL Grofe arrangement for jazz ensemble, is the nearest extant recorded version to the original performance from its premiere in 1924. It is the closest we can get to hearing what Gershwin himself intended, since he personally played the piano part, and he performed it in its original form. The 1942 Grofe symphonic arrangement was never even seen or heard by Gershwin and it differs in numerous respects from what Gershwin wrote and performed.

As I have repeatedly said, everyone is free to have an opinion about which version they personally prefer. But the jazz ensemble arrangement is what Gershwin intended.

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Why not go with the Manhattan soundtrack? That's my favorite.

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I'm seeing and responding to this post kinda late, but if you're still interested in hearing the Gershwin piano roll version, please respond to this post, and I'll make it available to you. You won't regret it.

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You need (at least) two: the jazz orchestration at a quick tempo, and the orchestral orchestration at a relaxed tempo. Hard to go wrong with the Tilson-Thomas version that uses the Gershwin piano roll for the former, and obviously the Bernstein 1959 for the latter.

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