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Steel, The cold hearted nasty man!


I just watched the end of season 2 and I always thought steel wasn't such a bad bloke, until he sacrificed poor old Tully for those damn ghosts! How could he do that? Tully was such a dear man and did not deserve that in the slightest...

I think that was the most disturbing part of that series Oh i dont even know...

Did anyone else find that horrifying?

"Good luck crazy bitch"

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The first time I saw that, I thought it was a bit jarring. I actually remember walking to the shops straight afterwards almost in tears! But I suppose it was there to remind us that Sapphire and Steel were not human and do not share our values. They were there to do a job and the sacrifice of one inconsequential man was a small price to pay for getting rid of the danger that the Darkness posed.

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Yeah your right that was awful, Sapphire seemed really really annoyed about that I can picture a blazing row occurring.

The thing that got me most was when he begins whistling and jumps up into the air merrilly before disappearing, now that is really COLD...

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"The Darkness" scared the hell out of me when I first watched it as a teenager - believe me, if I hadn't been 17 at the time I probably would have grown up sleeping with the light on.

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i was 9 when i saw it and it blew my mind. then later when i saw the photograph assignment it did it again - having my photograph taken was never as much fun again.

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"Cold-hearted nasty man," you got it! Poor Mr. Tully. I felt much better in season 3 when Sapphire was being cozy with Silver and you could see Steel was upset about it. About time something upsets Steel instead...

Now, we have been discussing this episode (hubby and I). Remember the part where Steel is asking Tully if he has any family and Tully talks about his cat? My husband thinks that Tully was offering himself as a sacrifice by reassuring Steel that no one would miss him. I, on the other hand, felt that Steel was setting us viewers up for some ghastly fate to overtake Tully (which it did). I never once got the idea that Tully was a willing sacrifice - especially since he screamed as he went into the darkness.


"Quick! It's coming! Dance like an eggplant!"

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I always got the feeling that Tully eventually knew what was in store for him, was terrified (though tried to cover it) and went to the darkness anyway. True heroes don't always look or act like Bruce Willis/Brad Pitt...

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I absolutely love this program, but your post made me laugh. As my old physics teacher pointed out with distain neither sapphire nor steel are elements!

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Sapphire and Steel sounds much cooler and Aluminum Oxide and Iron. ;-)

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neither sapphire nor steel are elements

Ha ha. That used to bother me too. Also, why were trans-uranic elements not allowed?



He's a semi-aquatic, egg-laying, mammal of action

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LOL. Your husband is such a sweetie but can't say I agree with his theory of self-sacrifice.
This was one of the truly character defining moments of the series, the dilemma cruelly illustrating the sacrifices that sometimes needed to be made and gave you an idea of the importance of healing rifts in time. It took me weeks to get over it! Disturbing and awesome in equal measures.

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I recently tried to watch a movie called "Rosamunde Pilcher's Coming Home" which I rented because of the all-star cast of O'Toole, Joanna Lumley, Penelope Keith and David McCallum. It was also apparently Keira Knightley's first movie. Early on, it appeared that McCallum's character was going to sexually accost Knightley's (young teenaged) character in a deserted house. I have no idea whether he did or not because this is a topic that really disturbs me and I could not watch through it.

I'll never be able to look at McCallum the same way again!


"She's gotten herself engaged to an inebriated newt-fancier!"

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This is so weird. I just finished a borrowed copy of Coming Home, and am now watching the sequel Nancherrow. To put your mind at ease, McCallum's character does not succeed with Judith because they're interrupted by the arrival of her aunt Louise (Penelope Keith).

update: Just finished Nancherrow, and fyi Joanna Lumley's former Avengers' co-star Patrick Macnee has a small role in it.

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I recently tried to watch a movie called "Rosamunde Pilcher's Coming Home" which I rented because of the all-star cast of O'Toole, Joanna Lumley, Penelope Keith and David McCallum. It was also apparently Keira Knightley's first movie. Early on, it appeared that McCallum's character was going to sexually accost Knightley's (young teenaged) character in a deserted house. I have no idea whether he did or not because this is a topic that really disturbs me and I could not watch through it.

I'll never be able to look at McCallum the same way again!
I guess that what is known as being too good of an actor?

How we behave toward cats here below determines our status in heaven. R.A. Heinlein

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Steel was an element and like the element he was named after he could be cold.

Its that man again!!

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The ending for assignment 2 was so totally unexpected.

Assignment 1 had ended with a typical television happy ending, with the baddy being defeated and everything back as it was before the parents disappeared.

I was expecting a similar happy ending for assignment 2, or at the worst, Tully accidentally dying at the hands of the dark entity.

It was so unexpected to see the "hero" deliberately sacrifice an unwilling member of his "team" just to get rid of the baddy.

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When Tully came down the stairs and talked to Steel for the last time he was so somber, I think he figured out what Steel was doing. I think he went back up the stairs as Steel told him, without protest because he really did want to help the ghosts even if it meant sacrificing himself. I don't think he knew when Steel asked him earlier if he had any family tough.

When Steel seemed to be happy skipping away at the end, that really made me despise him.

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First off, Steel isn't a man, he's not human. His attitude to humans is at best one of curiosity - we are a much lower species in his eyes. He is cold logic -an operator. Tully is a single man, no family and hasn't got that long to live. Steel makes a judgement call - sacrificing Tully saves more lives. True, it is a terrible fate for an innocent man, Tully was in the wrong place at the wrong time and sort of meddling in things best left alone. Sadly for him, he didn't get out when he had the chance.

"Remember, you have to make it home to get paid" (The Dogs of War)

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