When do you think Mr.Darcy and Elisabeth knew they were in love?
Heres my thoughts;
Darcy: After he heard Elisabeth sing at Rosings.
Elisabeth: After she told Mr.Darcy about Lydia elopeing with Mr.Wickham.
Please, share your thoughts.
I take it you mean when darcy thinks he's in love with elizabeth & vice versa.
well, do you mean according to this 1979 rendition or rather according to jane austen?
Darcy: When lizzy complained to Jane (while she was ill in netherfield) that darcy scarcely spoke ten words to her throughout the whole of saturday... That's when darcy knew he already has fallen in love with lizzy.
[You see, according to Jane Austen, she wrote: "(darcy felt) she attracted him more than he liked...ch 12" "he wisely resolved to be particularly careful that no sign of admiration should now escape him...ch 12"]
Elizabeth: After she finished reading Mrs Gardiner's letter.
According to the 1979 rendition.
shareDarcy: When he seen Elizabeth again for the second time and heard her sing.
Elizabeth: When she read Darcy's letter to her.
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Darcy: During the time she was at Netherfield. It was most evident when he was almost teasing her on whether she wanted to dance a reel. When she answered him so sweetly that she didn't want to, daring him to despise her, he realize just how much she has bewitched him. But it was definite at the Netherfield ball when he asked her to dance.
Lizzy: A bit tricky, but I thought it started after the letter and grew when she returned home and compared his good qualities to Wickhams' bad ones. By the time she visited Pemberly, and was given a true account of his character, she was hooked and when they saw each other again on the lawn, it was love.
"I'm not a witch, I'm not a witch!"
"But you're dressed up as one."
"They dressed me like this!"
Interesting question. First of all, Lizzie was attracted to Darcy all along but because of the circumstances, lied to herself about the attraction. It's kind of like you are drawn to someone you can't stand. Their verbal sparring was laced with sexual tension.
As when she first fell in love with him, I have to say looking at his portrait at Pemberly was the pivotal transgression of the character consciously admitting her feelings. I thought this was the same in this adaptation and the novel.
Mr. Darcy fell in love with Lizzie while she stayed at Netherfield nursing Jane. In the novel, I think this was also the case. I think he was more attuned to his feelings than Lizzie. He was grateful for Lizzie's lowly connections, otherwise he would be in danger of following his heart and asking her hand in marriage. Mr. Darcy was not eager about falling in love or matrimony.
"First of all, Lizzie was attracted to Darcy all along but because of the circumstances, lied to herself about the attraction. It's kind of like you are drawn to someone you can't stand. Their verbal sparring was laced with sexual tension."
Please. This is a cliche of romance tales from Bronte to Victoria Holt to Harlequins. Lizzy's dislike is solidly and justifiably based on Darcy acting like an *beep* and Wickham's *beep* tale of injustice. After she reads his letter, she gives him credit for the Wickham situation, but is then even more incensed that he convinced Bingley not to marry Jane.
"As when she first fell in love with him, I have to say looking at his portrait at Pemberly was the pivotal transgression of the character consciously admitting her feelings. I thought this was the same in this adaptation and the novel."
Nope. Lizzy recognizes that Pemberley is a beautiful and well-managed estate and that therefore its owner must be a man of excellent character. Mrs. Reynolds confirms that he is the best landlord and master anyone could have, and an affectionate and generous brother. While at Pemberley, she reflects, ""And of this place," thought she, "I might have been mistress!"" but remembers that she would have been completely cut off from her family. "This was a lucky recollection -- it saved her from something like regret."
"Mr. Darcy fell in love with Lizzie while she stayed at Netherfield nursing Jane. In the novel, I think this was also the case. I think he was more attuned to his feelings than Lizzie. He was grateful for Lizzie's lowly connections, otherwise he would be in danger of following his heart and asking her hand in marriage. Mr. Darcy was not eager about falling in love or matrimony."
Yes. But surely you can see how insulting it is to Elizabeth for him to be thinking, "Oh, I'm glad she's so poor and her mother is such a freak - otherwise I might be tempted"?
In chapter 36, Lizzy specifically says, "But vanity, not love, has been my folly" and follows up with the famous, "Till this moment I never knew myself." What she did not know about herself was that she was all too capable of making an incorrect judgment even though she has always prided herself on her discernment. Because Darcy acted rudely, she thought he was a bad man. Because Wickham was handsome and friendly, she thought he was a good man. Oopsie. O.
She was attracted to him since she met him as were the rest of the single women in the ball. It's clearly stated that everybody liked him before he appeared as a proud, conceited man; and probably Lizzie liked him too until her vanity is hurt by his remark of her not being pretty enough for him. She makes herself dislike him and manages to do so by insulting him everytime she adressed him.
However, she faal for him again when she goes to Pemberley and realizes that she must have been wrong in her judgement and that the description of his character, the way he managed Pemberley and his obvious change in manners to her an her relatives that same day show her that there's so much more to Mr. Darcy.
"'Till this moment I never knew myself" to me, means that she was always trying to protect herself and didn't realize what she had felt or how she should have behaved like.
Lizzie herself says it's when she first saw Pemberley!!!! (Shameless little money grubber!!!)
shareIf you read the book carefully, JA tells us that Elizabeth is joking when she says that.
Elizabeth is not a money-grubber. If she were, she'd have said "yes" to Darcy when he first proposed.
She does fall in love with him after seeing Pemberley NOT because it's sumptuous and opulent, but because she's met people who have known and loved him since he was a child. She sees that the estate is beautiful, well-maintained and very tasteful. It is the opposite of Rosings, which is superficial and over-the-top. She sees how he treats Mrs. Reynolds and Georgiana. There's an old saying -- "you can tell a lot about a person by the way s/he treats the help" -- and it's true. He treats Mrs. Reynolds very well, and she adores him. Georgiana worships him. Bingley and Colonel Fitzwilliam admire and respect him. Much of Elizabeth's opinion of Darcy was formed by having listened to what Wickham said about him. But she finds out that Wickham is not trustworthy. She likes Colonel Fitzwilliam and Bingley however, and should have trusted their judgment. But her pride and her prejudice will not allow her to do so until after she sees Darcy "in his natural habitat."