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Second year boring less fun and space battles


The first year was good the show was cheesy but good to watch sundays with space battles action, of course for todays standards is not very good but I remember watching the pilot in the theater and then the series, my father used to watch the show with me I think the real reason he liked the show was Erin Gray, second year is boring they try to copy Star Trek with the searcher they erased the stories from Earth and the secret missions with Doctor Huer, no more Space Battles no more villains like Ardala the sets don´t look futuristic the bridge of the searcher looks like a telephone central, the new characters are boring maybe the only good one is Hawk, they try to be more interesting serious because Gil Gerard didn´t want to chase women in all the episodes and look like a fool with silly jokes but the show lost all the charm.

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"my father used to watch the show with me I think the real reason he liked the show was Erin Gray"
GREAT !!! Who dont??

"they try to be more interesting serious because Gil Gerard didn´t want to chase women in all the episodes and look like a fool with silly jokes but the show lost all the charm."

Is this true? Gil Gerard have influence in the change of the second year?

2 good things of the 2 year: Hawk and Wilma skirts.

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Is this true? Gil Gerard have influence in the change of the second year?


As far as I recall Gerard said in an interview that he told corporate he wanted changes, meaning having Buck be less of a womanizer, but they went and ruined the show, which was not what he had in mind.

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"As far as I recall Gerard said in an interview that he told corporate he wanted changes, meaning having Buck be less of a womanizer, but they went and ruined the show, which was not what he had in mind. "

Great info, thanks!

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Although I was around when the show was new I but don't remember watching it, so I'm exploring it through Netflix. I was surprised at episode 23 when the show was completely revamped. Twiki was completely ruined and Dr. Goodfellow was kind of annoying. Hawk had a lot of wasted potential but probably because of the budget. Wilma looks good but like she's always about to play tennis.

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I just started the 2nd season on streaming Netflix now and I agree the change takes some getting used to. Dr. Huer was a great character and he just disappeared, and his replacement Goodfellow I'm still 50-50 on whether I like him or not. The seem to make him some sort of Buck Rogers "Q" or something. Buck also seems darker in character. He was willing to kidnap Hawk's mate in the 2nd season premiere for chrissakes ! The S.1 Buck wouldn't have done that.

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The second season was obviously very poorly planned:

They were probably like, "yeah, let's try to be more like Star Trek," and they just threw all these elements together without giving it much thought -- just throw Buck, Wilma, Twiki (with a new cute voice), the season one starfighters, and some new characters like a stuffy admiral, an eccentric old man scientist, an obnoxious robot and a bird man to simulate Mr. Spock, all on a ship called the Searcher, which was just the Lorian Queen model from the first season with Searcher decals on it.

As a result, they probably didn't know what to do with all these characters, like they never used Hawk again after the pilot, to any good effect -- most of the time they just got rid of him for the episode by having Hawk, "go off on Patrol." It got to the point where there was really no point in having him be a birdman, he could've been human and it wouldn't have made a difference.

Then I think they tried to save the show by bringing more first season elements back -- like Twiki going "bidee bidee bidee" again and the Mel Blanc voice, Wilma's skin-tight suits reappeared.

I liked the first few season 2 episodes, but then the episodes got more and more ludicrous.

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Also, Wilma's role drastically changed. In S.1 she was a high ranking or even the commander of all fighter forces for New Chicago (if not the entire planet). Then in S.2, she's relegated to becoming Lt. Uhura .

And the Searcher's premise was supposed to be the search for the lost tribes of humanity, that took to the stars, and Hawk was to tag along to search for others of his race, but did the series ever continue that, or was that dropped ?

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The feel changed completely in season two - and with no transition or explanation. The villains, New Chicago, the Directorate, the "cheesy" charm, all gone. Except for a couple of episodes - notably Testimony of a Traitor - I find the final season unwatchable.

The show was never a masterpiece, but in the first year - as you say - it was fun. For me, the second year was not.

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The second season was disappointing, but it was not without its merits. I just wish the producers could have recognized what a great premise they had going with Buck on Earth trying to rediscover his roots, and rebuilding a New Earth. We'll never know how great the second season could have been.

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The show's creator Glenn A. Larson (Fall Guy, Knight Rider, BJ & the Bear) had an annoying habit of making changes to his shows once they were hits. Kind of what J.J. Abrams does today.

According to Wikipedia:

Production of the second season was delayed by several months due to an actors' strike. When production resumed in the fall of 1980, the series had a new set of producers (headed by John Mantley who had primarily worked on television westerns) and the format of the series was changed.

Instead of defending the Earth from external threats, Buck, Wilma and Twiki were now a part of a crew aboard the Earth spaceship Searcher. The Searcher, which displayed the Latin motto "Per ardua ad astra" ("through adversity to the stars") on its side, had a mission to seek out the lost "tribes" of humanity who had scattered in the centuries since Earth's 20th century nuclear war (which is a theme present in Glen A. Larson's previous science fiction television series, Battlestar Galactica).

Another notable change in the second season was the disappearance of many of the regular characters of the first season, such as Dr. Huer, Dr. Theopolis, Princess Ardala, and Kane.

The character of Wilma Deering was "softened" in the second season as the producers attempted to tone down the militaristic "Colonel Deering" image, who often gave Buck orders, and tried to make her more "feminine". Another change in the second season was the sound of Twiki's voice. Mel Blanc left the series after the end of the first season and another actor, Bob Elyea, supplied Twiki's voice. Blanc returned for the final six episodes of the second season, though no explanation was given for the change in Twiki's voice.

The substance of the storylines also changed in the second season. Less emphasis was placed on militaristic ideals and, with a few exceptions, Gerard scaled back the humor in the second season in favor of more serious episodes. Buck and Wilma's relationship became slightly more romantic during the second year, though most romantic activity was implied and took place off-screen.

Moreover, the second season deals with more serious concepts such as evolution, ecology, racism, pollution, war, nuclear power, identity, the self, and religion. It also draws on mythology as exemplified by Hawk's people, which are a variant on the Bird people found in mythologies around the world and makes special reference to the moai of Easter Island. An episode also included a story about mythical satyr creatures.

As well as its parallels to Larson's previous television series Battlestar Galactica, the second season is similar in theme to Star Trek, with the Searcher roaming through space much like the Starship Enterprise, Buck being the maverick explorer true to the style of Captain James T. Kirk, and the serious, rather stoic Hawk being a revamped version of Mr. Spock. Even Wilma had, to some extent, been remodelled after Lt. Uhura from Star Trek, often dressed in a mini-skirt uniform and regularly sat at a communications console on the bridge of the Searcher.

Ratings dropped significantly after the season premiere. NBC, citing cost concerns, canceled the series at the end of an eleven-episode strike-abbreviated season. No finale storyline was produced, with the final episode broadcast being a normal standalone episode.

"Evil spelled backwards is live": Mok

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I have a soft spot for season 2.

It's Trek-like, but chasing down humanity's past, finding Hawk's origins - there are a couple of quests set up, but never really explored...

The potential is there, but it is a shame Dr Huer's departure isn't explained, or why they went to the Searcher...

The jokes Gil had to deliver were *bad*, but kids would have loved it all. But I see his point and, to me, season 2 is not that bad. They had some right ideas but didn't have enough... even if they did, I doubt the show would have survived...

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