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the purpose behind the pod people was a bad plot


there were too many loose ends in the movie. it just says the pod aliens are from another planet & briefly just gives you their identity. just a very weak plot. I don't see how it can get a rating of 7. too long of a pointless movie.



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I agree with you in that the movie takes to many turns that don't get you anywhere in terms of developing, plus, the main problem for me (i just finished watching this movie with my daughter) is consistency.

For a SCI FI horror movie to really affect you it needs 3 things.

1- Good character development

2- Tension

3- RULES !


The 1 point is well done, the second one falls somehow flat in the middle-end, the ending goes up the tension, the movie ends in a very good note fulfilling the tension level necesary for a good sci-fi horror movie, BUT, and this is a BIG BUT... the rules are nowhere near clear, in fact, if you watch the movie closely, it seems like the pods reproduce in whatever form the writers wanted, not by following basic established rules, but by how their mood was filming each scene.

Rules are necesary, you don't even have to come up with a scientific rule, you can imagine just about anything, they are pods, they can somehow travel through space without needing oxigen, but, you have to clearly state how they reproduce and follow it, which they didn't.

What happens when you're playing a computer game and by a bug or by omision you get killed and there is no way of knowing why?, you scream at the screen in rage and agony by your defeat... it was UNFAIR.

The same feeling can be felt in a movie when the rules are not clear, because then, you are giving someone, or something (in this case the pods) a power that you cannot explain, if you can't explain it, then the audience will fail to connect with the concept or will do it only partially.

Same crap happens when for no aparent reason a character falls down in the most important part, breaks a foot and the other characters must decide to leave him/her behind in a scene which you'll swear no human being will ever behave that stupid.. these are scrip/writing problems that affect the balance of the movie.

For me the worst part of this movie is the improbable way in which the pods reproduce, they are not clear, they are not explained very good and you feel the characters are at the mercy of the writer, instead of submersed in a world that is alive by itself and to be alive by itself it must have rules, no game or movie is fun without rules.


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I'm glad that you put into words what I was thinking! You're so right! Watching a movie that lacks a clear plot is one of my pet peeves. I don't have to know the why in every movie plot, but when a movie simply just goes all over the place, then it makes it hard for me to understand the movie; hence, my frustration w/it. LOL It's just like some people will argue "It's ONLY a movie! You're NOT supposed to THINK!" Well, I don't know about you & your comprehension skills for movies, but whenever I watch a movie, then I like to be able to understand its plot. Otherwise, I'm just watching a pointless movie for no reason. LOL So, I'm glad that you found faults with this movie too. Another movie that I simply couldn't quite understand is called "Suspiria." That movie is so odd and off the beaten path that I can't honestly make much sense out of it. The music is good, but bizarre, and the events in the movie are just out there & strange. When I watch a movie as long as I can understand the plot, then I don't mind if the plot is outrageous or just stupid. But, what I really dislike is when I watch a movie like this one in particular and have a hard time of understanding what's going on. LOL Of course I get the basic premise. Pods from another galaxy are invading earth and they're taking over people's bodies, or rather making copies of them, but most of the movie was just too long. Then, you think the movie is going to end on a good note with the protagonist winning, and surprise! It doesn't! To me the ending was ironic and rather spooky, but rather kinda cheated me out of my expectations for a good ending. It just seemed like that once Don S.'s character was destroying the pods, then that was the end of the aliens. Nope! LOL Plus, it was WAY TOO LONG. Some of those scenes could've easily been edited and STILL made sense.Overall, NOT even the best popcorn could save this movie!

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Exactly, Simplythebest79424.

The feeling, for me, comes from the movie detaching from any reality possible. For me, when a movie does not have clear rules, then the whole concept goes to hell because the "universe" in which the movie is based MUST HAVE some kind of reality attached to it and by reality i don't mean real or non-scifi, i mean, real in a way that the universe must be able to work things itself out without the writer having to bend it over to his will.

When the plot is constructed in a way that the "reality of the movie" can work for itself without the plot twisting it, then you have a wonderful oportunity to create something unique.



Alex Vojacek

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yeppers peppers, very true!  I don't know see how anyone can think this is a good movie, anyway. 

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It is not a good movie overall, it's a movie with nice pieces of horror, some good scenes and a lot of giberish and a somewhat drastic but effective ending.

It is disjointed as much as the plot and that makes the movie a collection of good and bad scenes and that's about it.

If you compare this one to Invasion, Invasion was an average movie in the end, but it was a good movie from start to middle because it had cohesion and clear rules, it had tension and it was only week at the end.

Now they should, for the fifth time, make a movie like Invasion, with a tense and tight ending like this one plus some better plot and we have a winner.

Alex Vojacek

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Now they should, for the fifth time, make a movie like Invasion, with a tense and tight ending like this one plus some better plot and we have a winner.


Very true! 
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I am fine with unrealisticness but I need INTERNAL CONSISTENCY. The original Superman movies suffered from a lack of internal consistency where the writers of each scene would just off the seat of their pants make up whatever super power they wanted him to have.

A fictional universe needs to follow it's own rules.

If another remake is done they need to decide how close you have to be to a pod to get duplicated, how long it takes etc.

In fact a cool scene to have in the next version would be if a very lucky person fell asleep and a pod's tendrils were reaching out to "snatch" him but the pod was just out of reach and could not quite reach the person.

In this movie the pods on the lawn had no physical connection to their victims (except for Donald who fell asleep on the lawn) and the time it took for the pods to develop kept changing.

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by creatorof2002 » 9 minutes ago (Sat Mar 21 2015 00:03:58)
IMDb member since June 2006
I am fine with unrealisticness but I need INTERNAL CONSISTENCY. The original Superman movies suffered from a lack of internal consistency where the writers of each scene would just off the seat of their pants make up whatever super power they wanted him to have.

A fictional universe needs to follow it's own rules.

If another remake is done they need to decide how close you have to be to a pod to get duplicated, how long it takes etc.

In fact a cool scene to have in the next version would be if a very lucky person fell asleep and a pod's tendrils were reaching out to "snatch" him but the pod was just out of reach and could not quite reach the person.

In this movie the pods on the lawn had no physical connection to their victims (except for Donald who fell asleep on the lawn) and the time it took for the pods to develop kept changing.


I agree with you. That's true. It makes a movie easier to follow too when there's some kind of established rules.

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I find this conversation rather shallow and pedantic. :)

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by x-e-n » 3 minutes ago (Mon Nov 23 2015 18:36:21)
IMDb member since September 2013
I find this conversation rather shallow and pedantic. :)


that's just silly talk. 

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This is a interesting thread. A film about Aliens from another planet that was written from the mind of a Screenwriter not being "Realistic" enough. Common Sense really isn't that common.

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They have no feelings, meaning emotions, yet that of screens when he falls when the greenhouses burns.

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it just says the pod aliens are from another planet & briefly just gives you their identity.


What more do you need to know? The name of their planet? How far from Earth it is? None of that matters.

It's just like some people will argue "It's ONLY a movie! You're NOT supposed to THINK!"

Well, I don't know about you & your comprehension skills for movies, but whenever I watch a movie, then I like to be able to understand its plot. Otherwise, I'm just watching a pointless movie for no reason. LOL


Watching a movie that lacks a clear plot is one of my pet peeves. I don't have to know the why in every movie plot, but when a movie simply just goes all over the place, then it makes it hard for me to understand the movie; hence, my frustration w/it. LOL


The plot was straight forward. There shouldn't have been much thinking required to understand it. LOL

To me the ending was ironic and rather spooky, but rather kinda cheated me out of my expectations for a good ending.


You weren't cheated out of anything. You were failed by your own preconceived notion.

It just seemed like that once Don S.'s character was destroying the pods, then that was the end of the aliens.


That green house wasn't ALL of the aliens. You're not going destroy ISIS by just blowing up one of their hideouts are you?

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You weren't cheated out of anything. You were failed by your own preconceived notion.

The problem is that the OP is a fundamentalist Christian, and this film postulates a fate for the earth that doesn't agree with his religious views. That's the real reason he doesn't like it, but he knows better than to say so, so he comes up with lame criticisms and musters a pair of socks to agree with him/keep the thread bumped.

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BuzzardsGottaEat^

Yeah!

I don't understand the posters' complaints (?)

I had no problems with the plot.

And, what is the problem with their 'reproducing' (actually it's a clone-like taking over ~ absorbing the person's appearance & memories, but not emotions ~ unless the posters truly mean sexual reproduction)? Is it that hard to understand?

Also, re: the comments about 'Invasion' I assume they mean the 2007 'The Invasion' which I thought gave too much time to action this & action that ~ the themes/plot are actually quite shallow compared with the 'Body Snatcher' films & the ending is hilariously Hollywood-happy bad.

I read the Body Snatchers book a long time ago, and have seen the original film & the remake (both which I really like).

The Invasion ~ nah. Bad knock-off, IMHO~ 



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Strange thread. People here talk about this movie not following its own rules and yet nobody mentioned what exactly were these rules that the movie did not follow.

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by henrimaine » 11 hours ago (Thu Dec 10 2015 21:04:09)
IMDb member since April 2009
Strange thread. People here talk about this movie not following its own rules and yet nobody mentioned what exactly were these rules that the movie did not follow.


they probably just made the rules up as they go along. LOL

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