Maybe it was explained and I missed it, but I didn't understand why Joe remembered he was Joe while in Leo's body, but forgot he was Joe when he took over the quarterback's body at the end. Can anyone please explain? Thanks.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
[deleted]
[deleted]
[deleted]
It's not a "screw-up," Dr. Hemlock explained it perfectly.
shareHe didnt forget. It was Mr Jordan that decided since this was to be his body forever that all previous memories should be erased
share[deleted]
I agree completely. Joe totally got the shaft here.
I asked the doctor to take your picture so I can look at you from inside as well.
I also completely agree. That development hurt the movie, IMO, although I hadn't realized it until a friend pointed it out to me years later. It's still a lot of fun, though, if you ignore what really happens to Joe. Good luck!
"I can understand it, but I don't like it none!"--Cheyenne.
[deleted]
It doesn't seem to me he knows who she is. How could he? He just likes her, is drawn to her in a way he doesn't really understand. Since he doesn't know he's Joe, he doesn't know they had a relationship prior to this.
"I can understand it, but I don't like it none!"--Cheyenne.
That's what I thought, too. Sometimes you're just attracted to someone and you don't really know why...it was that sort of thing.
shareHe doesn't recognize Betty. He's just drawn to her. Joe is gone, kaput, ceases to be. It made a good movie suck. I hate it when I love a movie up until the end and the end sucks so bad it ruins the movie. But hey, Go Jarret getting that second chance for no reason at all.
My Sig: Nothing Here.
[deleted]
I think it made for a more poignant ending they way they did it, although Joe certainly did get the short end of the stick on this one!
I have to say, I loved Jarrett's line to Max: "You wanna tell me why you're calling me Joe?" and the sad look on Max's face when he realizes what's happened.
As far as Betty and Jarrett's attraction, remember Joe told her to look for something in the eyes if she ever met someone. In essence, she saw Joe looking out through Jarrett's eyes.
"What is necessary is never unwise." -- Sarek.
^^^ I agree with you DanaF. I couldn't have said it better myself.
shareThank you, besctu, I thought that aspect of the script was flawed, too.
shareI agree that Joe losing his memory was a significant flaw in an otherwise great movie.
shareI kind of disagree with the idea that Joe got the shaft at the end, because I don't think the physical body makes the man, its the person inside. He'll think he is Jarrett, he won't remember anything about Joe or being Leo, but he'll still be Joe in a way. Since in this film world we have spirits that go up to heaven, he'll still have his spirit, and not Jarrett's. Also, its suppose to be a lite fantasy. If you over analyze it too much, bring in that one's memories and past effects who they are in the present- then its more of a bummer. But as a fantasy, your not suppose to look that deep. You're suppose to suspend belief and think he'll still be Joe, just never know that's who he is.
at least that's how I see it. Definitely a bitter sweet ending.
Don't worry...Jarrett will get the girl and become best friends with Max. He won't remember being Joe (but his essence is still Joe) and he will still have a positive influence on the people he loved. I like the ending because it is so bittersweet.
share[deleted]
[deleted]
The remake actually hurts the ending, which the same in the original, by deleting one small yet crucial element. There is a scene in "Here Comes Mr. Jordan" where Joe is told that his own personality would always shine through no matter whose body he is in. This is important, because Mr. Jordan knows he will take away Joe's memory in the end. In the first version, it makes sense because the final developments ring true to what is promised. Joe may not know it, but his persona is still there, in the guise of another person. He just doesn't know he was ever somebody else. In the remake, they forget to set this up so that it is logical. They kept the whole "I see something in your eyes" part, but not the rest.
share^^Good point
"Did you make coffee? Make it!"--Cheyenne.