What was with the 'I want your body' stuff?
When Douglas was on the phone. Some kind of code, or did they know each other? I wasn't fully paying attention.
shareWhen Douglas was on the phone. Some kind of code, or did they know each other? I wasn't fully paying attention.
shareI think they knew each other because Hester tells Gillian she has a boyfriend and that they met in a park. I don't remember if that part (when Hester tells Gillian about her boyfriend) came before or after the rendezvous she had with Peter in the van.
I'd also like to know if that scene when Peter is soaking wet, holding his pants up, and telling Hester over the phone "I need your body, baby!" is meant to be a funny scene. It's such an awkward scene because Douglas's delivery of that line is so hilarious. But is it supposed to be funny? I just can't tell because the humor of it completely ruins the context of the character. I mean, he is trying to save his son after all.
Oh, and another thing. Right before that phone scene when Peter eludes Childress at the construction site, why did he have his pants down to his ankles when he got out of the car? The two cops look down at his pants on the floor, and so does Peter himself before he picks them back up. I might've just forgotten but why was his pants down to his ankles while he was in the car?
The phone-call and rendezvous are the first time we see Hester, the conversation with Gillian comes later.
The sight of Kirk soaked in a phone booth is meant to provide light humour, to let the audience relax slightly in between the suspenseful situations he finds himself in.
The "obscene" phonecall is setup, and the reveal that he is panting due to hypothermia (and not because of perversion) is the payoff.
Even though the villains did not have her under surveillance yet, Kirk was a professional and could not take that chance. In case they had tailed her, she probably used some counter-surveillance moves he had taught her. After all, they stayed off the grid, in the van, rather than go back to her place.
The pants round the ankles scene is another light-hearted one. The pants fell down because they were a fat man's pants and he did not have a belt for them. The cops, OTOH (was that Denis Franz?), were held at gunpoint so they were worried he might act out the most famous scene from "Deliverance" ...
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They (Peter and Hester) knew each other quite well indeed, but the details aren't explained. Due to the need to stay hidden from Childress, Peter and Hester had a planned meeting place (the roof of that building) and the "obscene call" bit was done as a signal for Hester to come to the meeting place. Once she recognized his voice, she hung up and drove there immediately.
Don't ask why the agency wouldn't have had Hester under on-scene surveillance and simply followed her to the building in question...
Yes, this answers the OP's question. It's pretty obvious if you remember the order in which things happen. After the "obscene phone call," Peter and Hester meet up in the van and drive up to their spot at the top of the parking ramp. I agree that it's a super weird way to get around a potential phone tap and I'd imagine it's intentionally presented that way.
Doesn't seem that farfetched that Hester wouldn't have been under surveillance. They had no reason to suspect she was helping Peter. It was only later that Childress figures out that Peter has a "confederate" inside the Institute and says he's looking into it.
Regarding why his pants fell down when he got out of the car, I guess it's because the guy he took them from had a bigger stomach. He took out the pillow he had hidden in there while they were driving around. Why does everybody in the scene stare at his fallen pants and not say anything? I guess the emphasis is to show that Peter will go to any lengths of self-debasement to save his son. That's probably also why DePalma dwells on his strange and revolting way of getting in touch with his girlfriend.
Kirk's a chick magnet. He says that to a girl and it's considered done. Can't help imagining Sean Connery in that scene. This movie had a lot of "funny" scenes, but this one is among few that work.
shareI think it´s called "humor". A slightly goofy kind of bit as often characteristic to De Palma.
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The problem was they obviously didn't have a code other than he would call her. So, because he thought her phone might be tapped by Childress, Peter tried to make her understand it was him without speaking (in case someone would recognize his voice), thus pretending to be a pervert. But it didn't work and she didn't get it, so he then uttered the words "I want your body." She instantaneously recognized his voice and rushed to their usual meeting place.
Yeah, it was rather clumsy, John Farris didn't seem to be a good screenwriter. The film itself was quite enjoyable, though.
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that's what I thought it was code so anyone listening would think it was an obscene phone call...which were fun in those days before caller id...LOL
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