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Mark's death - One of the worst death scenes ever


Damien Omen II has it flaws, and for me the death of Mark is one of the biggest.
IMO - it has to be one of the worst death scenes in cinema history. It makes me laugh out loud (but makes me cringe inside) every time I watch it.

Having Mark drop dead because his brain was sort of paranormally crushed by evil Damien was a massive anti-climax. But the death scene was so badly executed. The young actor Lucas Donat, bless him, did his best - gurgling and shrieking before he fell to the snow. It just came across so amateurish. The lack of music during the scene was probably an attempt to make it more powerful, but instead it emphasized just how awful the acting was.

I'm surprised that the scene wasn't re-shot. Surely they could have come up with something better than that?

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I disagree. I thought the way it was portrayed was brilliant, especially by a young first-time actor. The sounds he made still make me cringe!
You could actually *picture* that happening in your own head, that's how convincing he was.
What I didn't like was the way the scene was so rushed. Damien shows about 5 seconds of remorse. I know he's the Antichrist, but still.
Also film seemed to 'zoom' over his death. There was barely a mention of him again, and no one even looked sad.


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"Also film seemed to 'zoom' over his death. There was barely a mention of him again, and no one even looked sad."

Yeah, Richard doesn't even shed a tear over his dead son.

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It sure was loud!

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I think the lack of music helped the scene, but I do agree that the actor playing Mark didn't do a very good job, and when he confronted Damien he was so amateurish and flat.

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Shrug. Worked for me. I can't say I've ever seen someone die of a brain hemorrhage, but this jibed with descriptions of it that I've read.

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That fell (no pun) on the late Don Taylor. There were so many shortcuts taken in this film once Mike Hodges was fired. Omen II (and III, but that's another issue) need a serious remake.

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Shrug. Worked for me. I can't say I've ever seen someone die of a brain hemorrhage, but this jibed with descriptions of it that I've read.

Agreed. It at no time seemed 'unrealistic' to me. In fact, I thought the actor did a BETTER job than most mainstream actors would have; it couldn't have been an easy scene.

As to Mark's *flat* reaction to Damien, I disagree totally. How would you react if you just had it confirmed that the cousin you loved dearly was the SON OF SATAN?!

And that you knew you were about to die because you would not choose to join evil?!
He was almost comatose, he was so terrified.
But he was still determined, and spoke accordingly.

Sounds quite accurate to me.




I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush.

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Damien did not want to kill Mark cause in his evil way Damien loved him like a brother. Mark became a threat.

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The OP was just saying that the actor did poorly in his death scene.


I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush.

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Mark must be feeling very conflicted. His cousin, the one he grew up with someone that he really thought he knew is something as evil as sin itself. He's confused, angry, hurt and terrified because he's seen what Damien could do

Also, let's consider they are young actors. Johnathan Scott-Taylor did a great job at turning on a dime as Damien, the boy needed to be able to do that

Mark was very good because he was the right hand and always with Damien.

I say the performance would be about a 7 out of 10. Acting isn't easy and I could actually feel and see in my mind what was happening. The fact that it was silent made it much more impactful.

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Several reasons:

1.) It's obvious Mark is in great pain, but Damien stands there and lets it unfold.

2.) Mark suddenly collapsing like that made the scene all the more shocking, because you think of young people as healthy and as going to live forever.

Seeing Mark drop like that is a metaphor for someone young suddenly dying out of the blue.

3.) Damien's scream is piercing when he realizes what he's done. That's all you need. To sit there and watch a bunch of little clips of Damien crying would've token away from that piercing scream.

4.) No music score was needed and would've been distracting. The scene is all about Damien and him making a choice. Musical ques would've token away from the psychology of the scene.

5.) It was the most important scene in the movie.
-Damien acknowledges what he is.
-Damien makes a conscious decision to use his abilities.
-When Damien makes that decision, it is symbolic of the loss of innocence.
-It sets into motion events that show that Damien is now starting to accept his position in the world.
-Killing Mark takes away Damien's humanity. He's now a monster.

There is much more then meets the eye with this scene. A lot of depth if you ask me. Just because they didn't use gore or overblown music ques doesn't diminish its significance.

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Good post bdhrentertainment, I agree.

There was a lot of subtext to this scene, and it didn't need to be overly shown to the audience for them to understand it.

But I will say I wish there had been at least one more scene showing Damien *becoming* more evil.



I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush.

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They did. At the end, when he kills Lee Grant's character. Grant has killed off William Holden's character. Holden was the biggest obstacle standing between Damien and him claiming his destiny.

With Holden dead, Grant could take legal guardianship of Damien and the company. Killing Grant, he's removed anything that stands in his way.

This scene has a lot of sub-text as well.
-In an earlier scene, they talk of how a succubus type woman would figure into the Anti Christ's plight. Grant is that character.
-Grant is to protect Damien and help him further his agenda.
-Ultimately, Grant's character is doomed to die.
-That whole prophecy comes true exactly as it was spelled out earlier in the movie.

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I should have been more specific: I meant I wish there had been another scene or two of Damien gradually becoming evil.
He seemed to go from normal human to diabolically cold almost instantly.




I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush.

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It's there...

-Damien confronting his teacher in front of the other students.
-The scene with Lew drowning underneath the ice.
-Damien realizing he's not human and his overall place in the grand scheme of things in regards to how Lance Henriksen's character treats him, how the Aunt treats him, because of his past history w/ his dad.

Etc. etc.

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I disagree. I think it is one of the most heartfelt scenes ever. I think the actor did a great job, and I want to cry each time I watch it.

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