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So where was Palpatine?


He was not on the Death Star. Sounds like a potential plot hole

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how was that a plot hole ? he could of been on coruscent in the senate ?

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Good point. I take back my plot hole

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Back in County Palpo, to be sure.

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He was like the Wizard of Oz in the original novelisation (not sure how much was sourced from Lucas directly). He was just a guy who'd hoped to do good but landed up getting pulled around by various bureaucrats and disappeared from view. He had no force powers.

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I didn't know the book came out beforehand

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I'm not sure if it did. That's why I was saying I don't know how much of his story was directly from Lucas - I guess in those days his "input" probably went as far as seeing the cheque from the book publishers and saying thanks very much...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_From_the_Adventures_of_Luke_Skywalker

Aided and abetted by restless, power-hungry individuals within the government, and the massive organs of commerce, the ambitious Senator Palpatine caused himself to be elected President of the Republic. He promised to reunite the disaffected among the people and to restore the remembered glory of the Republic. Once secure in office he declared himself Emperor, shutting himself away from the populace. Soon he was controlled by the very assistants and boot-lickers he had appointed to high office, and the cries of the people for justice did not reach his ears.

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Thanks. I wasn't aware of this

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👍 Yeah, it's interesting stuff.

That wiki page does actually say the novel came out pre film as well, so at least the title Palpatine and the concept of an Emperor (even if not as Darth's force boss) existed before anything was ever seen.

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I know Lucas got the name Palpatine from Palatine, which was some famous place in Rome where their emperors used to live

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Well I've been there but that I did not know. So thanks to you too - you have helped increase my vast Star Wars knowledge.

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No, he didn't. Milsey probably made that up.

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mmm, interesting - Sounded plausible enough though, place does exists...

Evidence Millsey?

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Check his posts. You'll see what I'm talking about.

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I don't think we can critiscise it too much, if it's a star fan.

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If he was, then he would be killed a total of three times now.

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Only one from the Palpatine's bloodline can kill him

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Ugh! I hate that they had that stupid reveal that he somehow survived getting thrown down that tower by Darth Vader/Anakin! It seems rather unbelievable he'd have somehow been able to go from the bottom floor of the Death Star to wherever the ships on it were in the short amount of time before the Death Star blew up. Then again I never wanted a sequel to the Original Trilogy. I feel Return of the Jedi had a happy ending and I don't like them undoing it in the sequels Disney did.

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"Then again I never wanted a sequel to the Original Trilogy. I feel Return of the Jedi had a happy ending and I don't like them undoing it in the sequels Disney did."

I agree with you, but from what I heard, Lucas had plans for Episodes 7-9, and as soon as he sold Lucasfilm to Disney, they threw out those plans of his for the ST and used their own hackneyed, incomplete and illogical narrative, loudly protesting that it was all part of Lucas' plan in the first place so "blame him and not us"!

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I don't think anybody in Disney bothered to watch anything that Lucas made.

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That shaft did not go all the way to the core of the death star. The throne room was on top of a relatively tiny spire sticking out of the surface of the battle station. At best he had only fallen most of the way down that spire before the light show obscured what became of him. We're talking a few hundred meters. Not the thousands of kilometers from the throne room to the reactor room at the center of the death star.

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A few hundred meters is enough to make him go SPLAT, however!

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Anakin didn't go splat when he landed on a moving speeder from a drop of a few hundred meters in AOTC.

These are force wielding wizards we're talking about.

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True, Anakin's arms should've been ripped off, and Palpatine could've slowed his descent as Mace Windu did.

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Captain Phasma similarly had an unfeasible survival in TLJ. Last seen being locked in a control room minutes before the TFA's Death Star planet blew up, she impossibly reappeared without explanation in the next film!

Disney primed us for such nonsense with Palpatine...

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Then don't have kids.

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Frankly if I do have kids I will get rid of all streaming I have now and have my kids watch the DVDs I provide them. Well, actually I will probably have them watch the stuff I bought on amazon digitally but other than that no streaming.

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He was at Del Taco, he loves $.49 Red Burritos, what a stupid comment.

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It is a stupid comment, but you wrote it, not me. What planet is Del Taco on?

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