asgardsrei1 said: "I just want to make it clear that when i used the term "loss of innocence," I was not referring to the girls experiencing sex at a young age, as I agree that sex is natural and normal as the body develops, etc. But having sex in front of a camera, and getting paid for it, while a bunch of adults stand around watching, is probably not such a good way for a 12 year old to become aquainted with their sexuality. There is nothing natural about a sex act that is being choreographed by a film director. Especially when your mother is on the set, watching everything you do, as in the case of Eva Ionesco and her mother Irína. I do agree however, that the film is a masterpiece in its own right."
Okay, so you're talking about the loss of innocence in, actually, a "strange way" -- sort of.
In other words, while most kids would have that loss of innocence in a different setting, not in front of a bunch of adults (but maybe in front of a bunch of other kids, however -- especially these days) -- this particular way was a "real loss of innocence" but didn't even involve the "real thing" but only a depiction of the real thing, and it was done in a very convoluted way, since the "film-making process" is not straightforward in the way a film is put together. It's a sort of loss of innocence, in "real life" by acting (for the actors and actresses) in a convoluted and piecemeal fashion, as is required by the film-making process.
So, yes, I would sort of suppose that is right.
However, keep in mind that it may not be quite as you think there. In other words, the mothers, not wanting to have their daughters come upon this for the first time in such a public way, would be inclined to prepare them ahead of time for what is to be expected and what will happen. So, the loss of innocence might not have been so convoluted as one might think at first.
The fact of the matter, though -- isn't that the preferred way for kids to find out and know some of these things, before they get into a situation like this (in a real life situation, I mean) -- for parents to carefully go over these things and be sure the kids understand what is going on??
And it would be important to do that thoroughly. However, I doubt that most parents really do that, in a comprehensive way or fashion. In fact, I think that most kids really learn all they want to know and need to know from their peers and from actually getting down to doing it. But, that's really not the preferred way. It should be up to the parents to make known whatever is important in these matters.
So, in that light, I would say that each of those mothers (and perhaps father, in the case of the boy), did go over what was important to know and needed to know -- beforehand -- before these actors and actresses got on the film set and made the film. So, I'm guessing that they had more of an opportunity to be told by their parents about these things (as it should be) in this particular case of this film, than they would have ever had, if the film had not been made. Thus, on a second look and on another level, it might not be that it was a strange way to have a loss of innocence (so to speak), if it actually did lead to the parents clearing up a lot of things, beforehand.
In fact, I'm pretty sure that this had to be done, beforehand, or else they would not have been such great actors in the filming of this. This really had to have happened before the filming began. And, as such, they were probably forced to do, what every good parent should always do, with their kids. With these kids, they probably gained a benefit, from their parents, for the fact of having to play the parts that they played in this movie.
But, having said that, I know a lot of parents are squeamish with going into that kind of stuff with their kids, which is why they oftentimes let the kids find out for themselves. And also, the kids are sort of squeamish with that, too. However, it's much better if it is covered adequately, beforehand, with the parents.
In regards to Eva Ionesco, I would think she was more experienced in that kind of situation, since her mother had been using her as a nude model for a while. So, I don't think she would have been as awkward as the other actress.
But, really, whether it's an adult or a young teen or a child -- all acting is sort of convoluted, when it comes down to the fim-making process. It's hard to make sense of what is happening from short shots and retakes and all the props and other people around. That's just part of the acting process. And if a child is doing that, it's just another part of their experience in becoming an actor or actress at an early age. It would be strange for anyone to "have sex" (at least depicting it) in front of a set-full of support people around. That's still true for adults, too.
HOWEVER, I have to say that it may not be as strange as it seems, especially for the kids today. I say that, because today it seems that people are filming themselves in these situations and/or having others do it for them. I'm not talking about professional film crews, but just casual and ordinary people with their home video cams. It seems that everyone wants to be "on film" these days and that it's an extra incentive for "doing it" if someone is filming. A lot of kids are doing that very thing these days, and it's so easy, especially with the phone cams.
It does not appear to be strange to these people who know that they are being filmed and they're just going right at it, like nothing bothers them at all. And with the 12-year-old and up crowd, they seem to revel in these things, in groups, no less, with someone taking the films of them, really going at it. Now, how strange is that? And this stuff isn't "acting" but the real and raw footage of it actually happening.
So, there is a lot to consider there...
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