Bootlegging?
Why was it considered "bootlegging" to transfer Coors across the county line?
shareAt the time, one of Coors beer's policies was that it was transported refrigerated from the factory to distributors and that it was, by company dictate, only available within a limited area.
As Coors beer was not legally available "east of Texas" (as mentioned in the film), transporting mass quantities of it outside its sales area was considered bootlegging, as it was obviously more than was intended for personal consumption.
Talk to most anyone from the Midwest or East Coast who visited Colorado before the 1990s and they'll likely tell you about bringing a case or two of Coors back home from the trip.
Wow. Totally feel educated now.
I was wondering what the deal with Coors was, like if it was a "product placement" or what, but since beer was everywhere anyway, that explanation makes MUCH more sense!
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There was also the fact that as Coors is proud of saying, it is cold filtered and not pastuerized. That was another legal reason why it was consideration bootlegging. It was not until Coors opened up a nationwide set of breweries that is was available in the Eastern U.S.
Another thing about the refrigerated trailer used in the movie, it has no fuel tank. Refrigerated trailers have seperate fuel tanks. They are usually mounted just behind the trailer's landing gear on the driver's side and are not subject to road taxes. They also have insulated doors, walls, and a chute running along the middle of the trailers roof. However, where does one start with the errors in this film.
They never implied in the film that the Coors was in a refrigerated truck.
As Mark Harmon used to say in his famous Coors commercials, "We don't have to refrigerate it, we just do."
But that's the fork I knew.
This film's creator Hal Needham discovered this law when he caught his maid stealing his Coors from his refridgerator. He had been given some by a friend but didn't yet know of the geographic restrictions. The maid was confronted and she told him!
The whole incident inspired this plot.
It has nothing to do with Coors' beer policy.
Bootlegging is a slang term that refers to the illegal entry of alcohol into a state. Several right wing/conservative states have laws that give the state gov't a monopoly on alcohol sales. The state is the only entity that can have alcohol shipped into the state, the state gov't then sells it at their own retail stores (I know PA and UT are like this, not sure about TX). The term originated in the civil war days when soldiers would hide alcohol bottles in their boot flasks.
You can ship alcohol out of the state, but not in.
It DOES have to do with Coors distribution policy.
Find out before you post, dummy.
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Find out before YOU post, dummy, and maybe you won't be insulting people that are providing more correct information than you are.
But ALL of you in this thread, including YOU, are incorrect in either leaving out facts or having facts wrong.
The poster you insulted is a little TOO specific, but he's correct about state control of alcohol. But those who say the "bootlegging" is simply due to Coors policy are wrong in a different way.
Here's the COMPLETE answer for all of you:
1. POLICY - Coors had limited geographic distribution back then due to their brewing/transport policies. That in itself however, did NOT make it ILLEGAL (bootlegging) to transport Coors to states where Coors was not sold.
2. STATE TAXES - ALL states have alcohol sales laws, covering everything from excise taxes to distribution and more. Some states receive shipments to state-owned warehouses, and distribute from there, and other simply require the purchase of tax stamps to be applied to the product before it enters the state. There are various versions of these controls.
3. COORS' DISTRIBUTION - Because EVERY state requires SOME type of licensing/taxation/control over inbound alcohol shipments, beer manufacturers have to set that up in every state they wish to sell beer in - this typically takes money and personnel to administer. Coors' policies for their product dictated that they would not set up shop in states outside their desired distribution area, therefore any Coors product sold in those states would by definition be "illegal".
That is why vacationers would bring back beer from Coors' legal distribution states, or people would send it out of the area to friends or relatives - it was "forbidden fruit". Such small amounts were never considered "bootlegging", because the amounts per shipment were so small.
4. However, when you load up an entire truck trailer shipment of beer, and bring it to a "Non-Coors" state, with out the proper stamps, or through the state facilities, then you are "bootlegging", because that state is not receiving its alcohol excise tax revenue - plus many states control the pricing as well, so people can't just import alcohol illegally and undercut local merchants.
So it's NOT just "Coors Policy" OR "a State-Owned Distributor" issue, is a combination of the policy AND state-taxation that makes the adventure in this movie "bootlegging".
Of course part of the big "appeal" in the bet, is the inference that Coors beer is some kind of "special forbidden fruit" of high quality. In reality, it's an ordinary every day beer (in my opinion) that has never been superior any number of beers that were always available anywhere in the U.S.
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Basically they wanted to find the least illegal thing that these "outlaws" could be doing. It was a mainstream film with somewhat of a family audience, Bandit and Snowman couldn't be portrayed as real crooks, just good 'ol boys trying to get one over on the law.
shareIt had nothing to do with state controlled monopolies on alcohol sales. Georgia (where the bandit started from and took the beer back to) was never one of those states where the state government owns and operates all of the liquor stores.
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exactly. thank you for saving me the time
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While I agree that you won't find anything re: Coors in the dictionary under the listing for bootlegging, the Coor beer policy at the time the movie was made had everything to do with the movie's plot. Take if from someone who grew up in Georgia and came of drinking age in the mid to late '70s and who wanted nothing more than to try a Coors to find out what all the hoopla was about!
Even the LEO who busts the trucker in the first scene in the movie makes the point that transorting Coors east of Texas was considered bootlegging in Georgia.
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i thought it might have to do with the alcohol content in texas beer compared to georgia beer. i know ppl today who go to visit kansas and up that take beer from texas with them and resell it because kansas beer is WEAK. lol i guess texas beer has a higher alcohol level then the beer there.
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me too man. i remember in the 70s everybody was always talking about coors this and that.
where did you grow up at? come back.
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It has nothing to do with Coors' beer policy.
Bootlegging is a slang term that refers to the illegal entry of alcohol into a state. Several right wing/conservative states have laws that give the state gov't a monopoly on alcohol sales. The state is the only entity that can have alcohol shipped into the state, the state gov't then sells it at their own retail stores (I know PA and UT are like this, not sure about TX). The term originated in the civil war days when soldiers would hide alcohol bottles in their boot flasks.
You can ship alcohol out of the state, but not in.
Sorry, "East of the Missiissippi" is far too broad of an area for "several right wing/conservative states". It's an entire geographical area that encompasses half of the United States. Also, many of these states allow drivers to pass through with shipments to states where it's legal to sell(Which could be at least ONE state "East of the Mississippi"), the beer is just not legal to sell or distribute there. You couldn't have interstate commerce if a single well distributed item(Such as beer) was required to play hopscotch to get 3 states over.
Now, having a brewery not meet certain guidelines for shipping a perishable item would limit the range it could be distributed legally.
And as for Texas, it is set up by county. You have dry counties and wet counties, so it is not decided at the state level. You would once again have a legal shipper bouncing all over the place to travel 60 miles. In Utah, you can absolutely buy beer outside of a state liquor store, you can even buy beer from out of state. You can't buy anything over 3.2% alcohol outside of the liquor store, except for where you can, though. I can go to the local brewer and buy their 9% beer directly from them. I can go and buy a growler to take home with me. I can even go to the 'Beer Store' run by the Brewer's Collective here, and buy anything they make, without once having to deal with the state liquor store.
But you are obviously the "expert" on all of these liquor laws, based on the fact that you found out the origin of the term "bootlegging". I bow to your greatness.
Different laws back then...
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Every time I flew from Stapleton International in Denver to Memphis in the 70s I would put a case of Coors in an AWOL bag and take it with me on the plane.
Later, I would take multiple cases of Coors back home with me in my pickup and trade them 2 for 1 for Busch Bavarian which is what I drank and hard to get in the Denver area at the time.
As for Bootlegging, all states have sort of tax on booze, sometimes even booze that just passes through. It was technically bootlegging because there would not have been any Georgia tax paid on the beer. You could make the case that Big Enos wasn't charging for it, so it wasn't bootlegging, but most states revenue departments would not see it that way for that much beer.
It was not illegal to bring beer in for your consumption, but a truckload would have raised eyebrows.
Of course, it is kinda funny how the movie exaggerates the whole Coors beer east of Texas thing but it is all true because of the Coors policy of yesterday and/or the ridiculous state laws at the time. (Many of these laws have rolled back but not all.) I grew up in Maryland and was wondering why my Californian Grandfather got to enjoy the forbidden fruit. It really was the expectation that any traveler into Colorado would smuggle back a case in order to create cocktail party talk. Otherwise, any trucker that was pulled over with a truck full of Coors would have been fined and had license suspended. Just like trucker bringing in unauthorized fruit into California.
However, watching the movie today you get the feeling the Southern police were seriously concerned about this 'bootlegging'.
that's not what i thought. i thought they were chasing bandit because he had been on a speeding tear through all those states. like a long range high speed chase. i doubt if the alabama and georgia police chasing him even knew about the beer. it was just hype that had been built up over all those states.
by the end when they were on 85 coming into atlanta, they had put it together that the semi was with the transam. but i don't think it was about the beer
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The police never knew of the bootlegging. Sherriff Justice was chasing Frog who was with the Bandit because she ran out on the wedding. NEVER in the movie did any of the police say the Bandit was wanted for bootlegging, but charges of kidnapping, fleeing the police, attempted murder of 20 fellow officers, etc., that Justice claimed he was wanted for, not bootlegging.
shareDon't forget the "Mann Act"! Man Act? Mannack?
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It was because of regional distribution laws. Look it up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coors_Brewing_Company
share"Mann Act" — The White-Slave Traffic Act, better known as the Mann Act, is a United States federal law, passed June 25, 1910. Its original form made it a felony to engage in interstate or foreign commerce transport of "any woman or girl for the purpose of prostitution or debauchery, or for any other immoral purpose". Its primary stated intent was to address prostitution, "immorality", and human trafficking particularly where it was trafficking for the purposes of prostitution.
And technically, Bandit did not commit a violation of the Mann Act when Frog told him to take off his hat because he was not transporting her as part of a commercial enterprise.
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It's interesting that the guy who wrote and directed the movie chose Coors beer. Coors had many problems with labor unions and also with minority workers. There were boycotts, etc. Maybe he was trying to tell us something.
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