Remake? - Quel maledetto treno blindato (1978) Discussion

[–] pokesallrule-1 21 years ago

which he is, I loved this movie, but it's gotten old. I want to see a remake! Especially with Quentin as director.

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[–] Monkey_Stew 21 years ago

acording to everythingtarrentino.com its not a remake

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[–] funkster_nicole 21 years ago

I salute him!

I'm not a fan, but to everyone there's bound to be a few films that your friends think that you are nuts for liking. All QT will be doing is re-packaging the film the way he would want it to be viewed.

The elements of the film that grabbed him, the elements that the world should see and finaly to get the general public interested in obscure cinema of the 70's or should I say Euro/Action cinema of the 70's.

Besides, the original had Fred "The Hammer" Williamson.

One Bad MOFO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Word!

It can't rain all the time!

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[–] meanstotheend 21 years ago

its not a remake, its an "homage" *cough* *beep* THIEF *cough*....

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[–] meanstotheend 20 years ago

Theives usually do try not to get caught. Reservoir Dogs was completely lifted from "City of Fire". "Kill Bill" was stolen from the famous "Bride Who Wore Black" by Truffaut (I believe). I'm not in the mood for arguing, but do a little research.

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[–] meanstotheend 20 years ago

Suppression has nothing to do with thievery. The simple fact that he gives no mention or credit to these films makes it theft. Perhaps a simple analogy will help the cogs along. If I write a paper for a professor or community that borrows heavily from numerous papers, including the occasional verbatim paragraph, and I do not concede credit to these sources, is it not plagarism? If I wrote a song (Vanilla Ice) that used the same rift or accompaniment as another song (Queen), am I not guilty of some artistic infringement? The apathy and accemptance of some (the Germans) is no right of way for wrong-doing (the Nazi party).

An arrogant one.

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[–] meanstotheend 19 years ago

Didn't someone ask him if he had seen City on Fire, and he said he loved the movie, and then someone pressed him on the similarities and he said he had never seen it? I'm fairly certain he has recanted the notion he has seen that film, and given the "influence" of French new wave cinema on Tarantino, I HIGHLY doubt he hasn't seen the TBWB.

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[–] bryonpav 19 years ago

Tarantino has seen every movie ever made about anything ever! Don't try to *beep* us.

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[–] Danny-Rodriguez 19 years ago

it's a version of.

more of a different way to tell the story.

Regards,

Daniel Toemta

I can only express puzzlement, that borders on alarm. - Douglas Klump

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[–] ajji-2 19 years ago

back when Reservoir Dogs was fresh in the cinemas, i was reading up on QT in magazines like Film Threat, Empire, etc. in his interviews he says he was inspired by John Woo's films, French new wave (Melville was referenced, but surely he's seen Truffaut as well), and there was talk of The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3. no mention of COF. even when asked pointedly about the similarities, he plainly said he hadn't copied it, and went on a speil about all artists taking inspirations from others, etc. this despite the fact that Film Threat even ran a scene-by-scene comparison (complete with stills from both RD and COF) and concluded the 'plagiarism' controversy on a 'guilty' verdict. after going through that comprehensive analysis and having se both films, nobody in his/her right mind can deny that QT was unaware of COF when he made his film.

so in regards to RD, yes he did steal a lot from COF, and should at least have had the decency to acknowledge the film. as for the likes of Kill Bill, he's admitted to and even pointed out the films he's referenced, although i don't remember reading about The Bride Wore Black in regards to KB. mostly, it's Thriller: A Cruel Picture and Lady Snowblood that are mentioned.

This film is dedicated to all the Brothers and Sisters who had enough of the Man.

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[–] Buddy_Biancalana 16 years ago

Well, since this Quentin Tarantino character is a plagiarist, his work will surely be forgotten and ignored. People will simply watch the original movies and not buy a ticket to see the new copied version. Right?

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[–] Emunah 16 years ago

After 5 long years, its finally filming now!

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[–] dustbyte 12 years ago

And the final result... spectacular and very very very different from the original IB. Aside from the misspelt name and the fact there are some roguish characters running around Europe killing German soldiers, there isn't a lot of similarities between the two films.

One is a about a plan to destroy some V2 rockets (the original).

The other is about a plot to destroy the German high command in one fell swoop and end the war (as well as being revisionist which the first is not).

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