The "coaching" he gave him was a joke! In terms of Lou staying on his mental game, his dad only made things worse. He kept saying things like "whatever you do, don't mess up" or "the competition is tough, you'll have a real uphill battle beating Arnold".
He kept feeding Lou failure oriented programming. Also, how come Lou was the only one with a coach?
"We got a job"
"What kind?"
"The Forever Kind"
I thought his father was uite encouraging. Lou was vulnerable and needed some self esteem i supose but i dont think it was a failure orientated programme. They both knew what Arnold was capable of but what i dont understand is why the describe lou as being 'dissapointing' in the mr olympia? He looked massive and great, so what was so bad?
shareOf course his father meant well, don't get me wrong, but he really had no experience as a coach. He took the wrong approach and said things the wrong way. Yeah, he looked fantastic, but so did most of the competition, including, of course, Arnold.
Also, I think the judges were dazzled by then by Arnolds personality, charisma, confidence and winning track record.
"We got a job"
"What kind?"
"The Forever Kind"
"Also, I think the judges were dazzled by then by Arnolds personality, charisma, confidence and winning track record."
And the fact that despite being a bit underweight (he only had 110 days or so to train for it), he was the best on stage that night..as usual though Franco really gave him a run during the final pose off between the two weight classes. That was Arnold's biggest competition. Lou was no threat and Arnold knew that. Yeah Lou was big but Arnold better had symmetry, definition and was obviously better proportion. No contest.
I read somewhere a while back that his dad was just added for the movie. He was never really his coach. That's why half the time he didn't know what he was talking about.
Happen to fall off a cliff. Might as well try to fly.
I think that's close to the mark
shareThat makes perfect sense. In the special features, they also said the "shirt stealing" episode was manufactured for the sake of movie dramatics.
"We got a job"
"What kind?"
"The Forever Kind"
The shirt stealing wasn't manufactured for the movie. It really happened. What was manufactured was the scene when Waller was talking about planning to do it at the football field. That was actually filmed months AFTER the contest was over.
share"Also, I think the judges were dazzled by then by Arnolds personality, charisma, confidence and winning track record."
That's exactly it. Even watching as an amateur, i could tell that Arnold exuded great confidence, but more importantly...he looked like he was having fun.
I never once saw Lou crack a smile and his movements looked choppy and forced.
Slavery sir, it's done.
I thought his dad was a great trainer. He encouraged him positively at many points too. Saying he looked like Michelangelo carved him, etc.
shareWell it's hard to tell what is real and what is made up... I remember more than one instance in the movie where Lou seemed genuine scared of his father..
But I also read that he was only in the movie... and not his actual coach