NC-17 by today standards


If this movie was released today it would receive a NC-17 rating. Skits "Eyewitness News" and "Catholic High School Girls in Trouble" would have to be cut to get an "R" rating. You can't caress a breast in an "R" rated movie, but you can dismember a body in vivid detail. It seems we have become more (instead of less) sexually repressed in the last 30 years.

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its just because American movie standards are completely retarded and make no sense

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I agree completely.

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Once upon a 1980s they made a film.

It was called 'Red Dawn'.
It had people being shot.
It was too violent for PG.
It didn't have naked wild titties or the evil 'F' word (EEEEK!) in it...

...so they came up with a 'New Rating'.

They called it PG13.




Today, PG13 is the 1980s version of PG!

Watch the 'commentary' on the DVD for 'The One' and you'll get a REAL clear version of how PG13 is now JESUS13.


Yep, we're a going backwards!

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Nah, it was 'Gremlins' that really created the PG-13 rating...

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I though 'Indiana Jones And The Temple Of Doom' started the PG-13 rating.

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Ditto. It started because of "Temple of Doom". The scene with the heart being ripped out of a chest.


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Glorified violence is okay, as long as no one shows a tit or utters a F-word. That's basically the sum of it.

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It's just like fantasy man. People wanna see characters doin' illegal crap not necessarily havin' sex!

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We're not more repressed - we do all sorts of sexual stuff in life - we just can't talk about it, or show it in a film.

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So in other words you are more repressed.

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It's also ALOT of breast to be caressin'

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The UK is at least as repressed, because there your supposed to be 18 to rent/see the movie.

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The UK isn't repressed at all in terms of films. The BBFC have come on leaps and bounds, ever since von Trier's Idioterne, and we're becoming ever more like the Nordic countries. You say that this film is an 18, but that means nothing over here, really; films such as 9 Songs, The Brown Bunny, Import Export, Shortbus, showing actual intercourse, are all 18's as well. It's just an umbrella rating for the highest content. It doesn't mean anything in particular financially, and it certainly doesn't signify our repression. It's just our ratings system, it's a damn good one, and it doesn't have any of the hypocrisies and prejudcesof the American system. As a Brit who has charted the progress of the BBFC over the years, I am damn proud of them and the progress they have made from Thatcher's days of actual repression, of art, of culture. They've come a long way if you ask me.

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I disagree.

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Yeah, this would still be rated R in my opinion. QT's Grindhouse had it's share of nudity, not to mention a lot of graphic gore, and it was still able to get by with an R rating.

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If you haven't already had the chance to see it, I recommend watching THIS FILM IS NOT YET RATED, a great documentary that will describe how and why the MPAA works, or doesn't work. Specifically the double-standard regarding sex/nudity vs violence/gore.

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The only nudity in GRINDHOUSE (AT ALL) was in the Go-Go club in PLANET TERROR and the two chicks (Where are my wife and daughter?!) in MACHETE. Are you talking about the uncut European version of DEATH PROOF?

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Was there a lot of nudity in Grindhouse? I remember a tit or two in the beginning of Planet Terror but nothing in Death Proof at all.

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You can't caress a breast in an "R" rated movie,




Babel anyone?

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You can caress the heck out of a breast in an R-rated movie, and suck the hell out of it as you are caressing it. There are waaay too many examples to name, but you can start with Basic Instinct.


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If you want to get a jist of the rating system now a days and what they base their ratings MOSTLY on...rent "This Film Is Not Yet Rated."

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John Landis, on the audio commentary on the DVD, said that the film would get an NC-17 (or X) if made today......
"This Film is Not Yet Rated" is a terrific documentary on the subject.

I never have understood why you can show two people having sex and then getting sliced by a pitchfork (Friday the 13th) and that gets an R rating, but an intense sex scene with no blood has to get edited to prevent the NC-17 ("The Cooler"). This says to me, killing is OK. Intense sex, not OK.


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This reminds me of the South Park movie: "Remember what the MPAA says! Horrific, deplorable violence is okay! As long as people don't say any naughty words!"

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I can remember back in the day I am 35 years old. I can remember when a PG movie would show some nudity back in the late 70's and early 80's. Then they revised the rating system and created the PG-13 rating which would then show the nudity but very little though.

I mean the thing is that today they want to crowd the movie theaters with young 13 and older to watch horror movies that are not really scary at all! If you want to see some real scary movies that are Rated R check out the classic horror films from the late 70's to mid to late 80's.

Now those were the days. In todays society everything is now Politically Correctness. If it seems like it is going to hurt poor Johnny or Jane's feelings then they do not want it in the movie.

That is what is wrong with todays society I hate to say it. It has become too kind and too soft now. I do not like it at all!

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I'm 34 (I know this is a late comment) and I don't remember that.

In the '80s:

*G was for the whole family
*PG was just that, parental guidance which had no nudity, barely any cussing
*PG-13 same as PG but not for children under 13 because there was some cussing, no nudity.
*R stood for restricted meaning it was a mere suggestion that your kids shouldn't watch
*NC-17 was a new one that I remember in the '90s. If i could recall it was between PG-13 and R

As for the horror films from back in the day I'm sure many of them were rated R because many of them had nudity and sex scenes.
Today, there is hardly any of those scenes - not that I care since there is nothing for me to see since they all cater to men.


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I just turned 40 last week and you are correct on some of the rating system, but not totally due to the changes during the 80's on the rating system.

*G was for the whole family and you are correct about this.
*PG back during the 70's and early 80's until around the mid 80's they did allow cussing and nudity in the films.
*PG-13 was not created until 1984 and that was above PG. PG-13 would allow some curse words in the movie, but not to the extreme like a NC-17 film or R rated movie. Basically now a days a PG-13 horror film is just watered down so that the film company can squeeze in all the teenagers into movie theaters to make the money and tease the teenagers with looking like there may be some nudity in the movie even though it does not have any.
R stood for foul language and nudity in the movie and you are correct about kids should not watch unless they are with their parents. I use to have my father take me to the movies to go see R rated movies before I was a teenager and during my teen years when I was under 17. My mom would watch some R rated movies with me.

Yes the horror movies from the 70's and 80's were R rated all right and did have nudity, the sex scenes. Today they just stamp a PG-13 rating like I stated to get teenagers to come to the movies and make money that way. I am sorry, but I am currently working on a screenplay right now and I am not making it for a PG-13 audience because I want only adults going to see a hard R rating. If anyone bellow the age of 17 want to go see the movie they are going to have to ask their parents to take them to go see the film that I am writing. That is how I feel about it.

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Are you ready for this?
(By the way, if you are not familiar with the "blacked out" text, it is a "spoiler", so you need to move your cursor on it to see the text it hides.)


How about a "G" movie that has two women skinny dipping and splashing around, then drying off in the sun...
HINT: One of the two is Jane Seymour.
Hint #2: While it is NOT prominent, you can see a nipple in a cross-chest view while she is screaming as a monster approaches.
Give up? Or did you guess it already? The movie is SINBAD AND THE EYE OF THE TIGER.

Next crazy rating:
Have you seen an originally rated "X" movie that has been re-released and re-rated, and has been sold in WalMarts for at least five years?
HINT: It is a sci-fi/fantasy, also from a similar mold as THE FIFTH ELEMENT.
Hint #2: The movie is the origin of the name of a well known (older) rock band.
Hint #3: It stars Jane Fonda.
The movie in question is rated "PG"(!!??!!) and was based on a French comic strip. It opens with someone removing a "spacesuit", and as more (and more) of the "suit" is removed, it becomes abundantly clear the person inside is a woman, namely a young Jane Fonda. Do NOT confuse the current "PG" DVD with what has been broadcast on TV and cable, because there are several versions with different special effects (notably starbursts, stars, or bubbles) floating around the screen to obscure the "naughty bits", and some of the dialog has been cut and/or altered "for time and content".
The band name came from this movie as the name of a missing man Barbarella was sent to find, and who turns out to be the main villian, Duran Duran!
BARBARELLA was originally rated "X" when it first came out. If you search around on eBay and some of the other websites, there are occasionally some of the laserdisc copies for sale, with pictures to prove it is the original "X" version. I should also mention how there was a name change, probably so the re-rated version named BARBARELLA QUEEN OF THE GALAXY won't be confused with the "X" rated shorter named copy! However, the "PG" version does include a word that rhymes with "maggots", and its use is prominent, (but at least only once).
"PG" indeed...


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What are you talking about? Of course you can caress a breast in an R rated film. Basic Instinct was rated R you moron.

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You couldn't even make this movie today.

Beyond the sex it is so UN-PC.

Danger Seekers? Fist Full of Yen? NO WAY this could get made today.

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Are you an idiot? Sex can be "more" graphic now than then dumb ass. You can show a penis up close now. You could not then. If it shows direct intercourse than it's considered porn; hence an NC-17 rating.

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You should REALLY go re-read my post. There were two nude sex scenes that didn't show penetration plus all of the racial slurs and stereotypes.

Now I wouldn't know about the penis thing but if you like movies featuring penis knock yourself out.

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^^^

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there were many movies in the '80s where I have seen a penis upclose.

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