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Kizzy betrayed Missy Anne

posted 3 years ago by JulieTX (12)
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Missy Anne taught Kizzy how to read, and then Kizzy uses this against her by forging the travel pass for Noah. Missy Anne had a right to be mad. Missy Anne kept her promise to Kizzy. She told Kizzy that she would never tell anyone that Kizzy could read, and she didn't. Kizzy revealed it by her actions. Then she cries for Missy Anne to help her. She did it to herself. She also got Missy Anne in hot water because Dr. Reynolds knew that it had to be Missy Anne who taught Kizzy to read and write.

Kizzy screwed herself. Missy Anne was not to blame. I think that Missy Anne really liked Kizzy. She was so excited to have Kizzy come live with her. Kizzy would have had a much better life with Missy Anne than she did with Tom Moore. Whatever Missy Anne did for fun, etc., Kizzy could have enjoyed too. Missy Anne was going to give Kizzy the best life that a slave could have. Missy Anne had a right to be mad. Kizzy betrayed her by revealing their secret and using it against her.

[–] strntz (12231) 3 years ago

True, but look at Kizzy's motivation here. Kizzy was trying to help Noah escape the inhumanity of slavery, she wasn't just chatting or gossiping and letting loose lips cause the issue.

Sure, Missy Anne offered Kizzy a better form of slavery, but we can't forget that as benign as it might have been compared to other blacks at that time, it was still slavery.

[–] JulieTX (12) 3 years ago

Kizzy was going to be a slave her whole life anyway. Being with Missy Anne would have been her best chance for the best life possible. She probably would have never been raped. She might could have chosen her mate and still had Chicken George.

[–] strntz (12231) 3 years ago

Again, you're offering Kizzy a better life in slavery, but it's still slavery even if it was rather benign. Kizzy was written as a very determined woman, so it's no surprise that she wouldn't try to help the boy she loved get his freedom, something she would never achieve herself.

Would she have been better off as Miss Anne's personal slave? Sure, but the chance to be more than that is what motivated her.

[–] JulieTX (12) 3 years ago

I definitely understand Kizzy's motivation, but she still betrayed Missy Anne. That's why Missy Anne didn't help her by trying to convince her uncle not to sell Kizzy.

[–] millsey72 (10259) 3 years ago

You are thinking backwards here. You never sympathize with the white person in this film because the blacks are the victims

[–] JulieTX (12) 3 years ago

I'm just saying that Missy Anne had a right to be mad at Kizzy. Kizzy betrayed their friendship. Now Uncle William knew that Missy Anne taught Kizzy to read. His relationship with his niece would never be the same either. You could tell by the look on his face that he was disappointed in Missy Anne.

[–] millsey72 (10259) 3 years ago

Are you going to apologize for your white privilege now? Your comments were out of line. Kizzy and her race were victims during this time. Missy Anne was part of the oppressors and we never sympathize with their kind during this time

[–] JulieTX (12) 3 years ago

Missy Anne truly liked Kizzy. Kizzy said that Missy Anne gave her a doll once when Kizzy was sick. Anyone in Missy Anne's place would be mad at Kizzy for writing the travel pass for Noah. Kizzy would not have the ability to read and write without Missy Anne. Missy Anne gave her this skill, and Kizzy used it against her.

[–] millsey72 (10259) 3 years ago

So you are not apologizing?

[–] JulieTX (12) 3 years ago

Of course not. I personally have nothing to apologize for. Let's keep this focused on Kizzy and Missy Anne.

[–] millsey72 (10259) 3 years ago

I think your white privilege is blinding you here. Kizzy was a victim and Missy Anne was scum. Case closed. How can you side with the oppressors here?

[–] JulieTX (12) 3 years ago

Missy Anne was not scum. She liked Kizzy. She felt betrayed by her.

[–] millsey72 (10259) 3 years ago

Missy Anne was white and all white people in the South during this time were scum. All of the blacks in the South during this time were victims. Kizzy deserves a lot of credit for attempting a better life for her and her boyfriend. What an inspiration Kizzy was in Roots

[–] JulieTX (12) 3 years ago

My ancestors were white southerners, and they were not scum.

[–] millsey72 (10259) 3 years ago

Your family owned slaves that means. So are you saying they were honorable people with good morals?

[–] strntz (12231) 3 years ago

No, it doesn't mean that. Percent wise, most southerners were not slave owners.

[–] millsey72 (10259) 3 years ago

Most? I think pretty much all able adults in the South during these times all had slaves. In fact, I believe most owned more than 1 slave. I heard George Washington had something like 400 slaves

[–] thingmakersback (1370) 3 years ago

If - round about 1860 - there were about 9 million people in the slave-owning South - just in the states that seceded - And about 3 million slaves overall... Then what you state is obviously wrong. I think you know that and are just dicking with us.

[–] millsey72 (10259) 3 years ago

If I'm wrong, then I stand corrected

[–] PaladinNJ (21510) 3 years ago

You're absolutely right. Percentage wise only 1.26% of Southerners owned slave. You want to know the ironic thing, percentage wise, free Blacks owned more slaves than Whites.

[–] Keelai (34859) 3 years ago

Nonsense! What's your source? KKK?

Next you'll be saying Hitler was Jewish.

[–] JulieTX (12) 3 years ago

A small few of my ancestors owned slaves. Most of my ancestors did not. Of the ones that did, I would like to think that they treated their slaves humanely. Some slaveowners did. They weren't all cruel and brutal. This of course does not justify slavery, but some slaveowners treated their slaves very good. I'd like to think that my ancestors were among those that did.

[–] Otter (24464) 3 years ago

A slave is under no obligation to show loyalty or gratitude towards their owners, not for small acts of kindness or better treatment than some slaves get, because they're still being imprisoned and forced to engage in unpaid labor!

How can anyone not be aware of that.

[–] JulieTX (12) 3 years ago

Actually, they were expected to show loyalty. Or, they got sold.

[–] Otter (24464) 3 years ago

Oh sure, the slave owners expected their slaves to show gratitude for any tiny kindness and to demonstrate fealty and loyalty, which shows you how delusional some of them were.

Even the kindest "good master" was still a slave owner, who ruled through fear, even if there were few instances of physical abuse there was still the threat of being sold to someone worse.

[–] JulieTX (12) 3 years ago

Which was why Missy Anne's offer was a good one. Kizzy was inevitably going to be a slave for life. Being owned by Missy Anne would have been the best deal possible.

[–] Keelai (34859) 3 years ago

You must be gaslighting!

The entire system of slavery was wrong. Kizzy didn't owe a slaveowner's daughter/niece any loyalty.

[–] marktayloruk (2502) 2 years ago

It would surely have been a better life than the one she wound up with!