What is Your Favorite Part of the Movie?
I wanted to try and liven this board up with some discussion and am just curious as to what your favorite part or parts of the film are?
shareI wanted to try and liven this board up with some discussion and am just curious as to what your favorite part or parts of the film are?
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I think if I had to pick just one, it would either be the part when he walks into the saloon in Santa Rio and orders a whiskey, and then a beer. "first the silver run out, then the people run out, then the whiskey run out, then the beer run out, oh well it's good to see a high roller come through." Then Josey leave and comes back with the whiskey from the Comancheros.
And of course the "Buzzard's gotta eat same as a worm" scene.
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Thanks for posting chocolatepiazza. Yeah, I've always loved that scene too; it shows Wales' heart and generosity, too bad the bounty hunter that shows up sort of ruins what was turning into a good little party. I am reflecting on a few of my own favorite scenes and will post them later tonight or tomorrow. And, as for the "the buzzards gotta eat...," I still think that is probably the most bad ass line in the film.
shareObviously I like the confrontation with Lige, Abe & the unseen Benny. I also like the whole affair at the ferry; especially Sim Carstairs' (sp.?) renditions of "Dixie" & "The Battle Hymn of the Republic".
He sings them both with equal enthusiasm!
Watch 'em Abe, I seen 'em do some things!
The dialogue between Sim Carstairs and the Carpet Bagger is amongst the best in the film. It is well acted scenes like the ones with Carstairs that give this film a sense of realism and serves to counter-balance Wales' mythical persona. This movie is full of great supporting performances that really make it stand out from other films: you have the weasle Zukie Limmer who runs the trading post, you have a real disgusting pair of low lifes, Yoke and Al, in the same place, and you have great performances from all of the minor characters really, although some complain Sondra Locke brings it down a bit, I just don't see her role as all that significant or even poorly acted. I mean she is supposed to be playing a naive, odd, and, innocent girl which I think she did well at.
shareObviously I like the confrontation with Lige, Abe & the unseen Benny. I also like the whole affair at the ferry; especially Sim Carstairs' (sp.?) renditions of "Dixie" & "The Battle Hymn of the Republic".
I like the part just after that, where Josey shoots the thick rope of the ferry and it drifts downstream. As it does so, there is a "F You" version of Dixie playing.
I have so many scenes it is hard for me to pick just a few:
1. When Wales pulls his guns from the ashes and makes his transformation from farmer to gunslinger, and the whole scene that effectively starts the action of the film, with Wales sitting distraught and Bloody Bill telling him the Red Legs are up in Kansas and that they are "goin up there and settin' things a right." When I first seen the beginning, some 17 years ago, and heard Wales' response "I'll be comin' with ya," I knew I was about to watch a kick ass movie.
2. When Josey requests Rose of Alabama near the end, telling the gang it is the only song he can think of; I find that to be an awesome and moving scene: here Wales has this new family and he somehow finds a way to include the kid's memory in it, and just the way Josey and the kid look out for each other and the part when Jamie dies and the look on Wales' face when he comes back-it is a powerful part of the story and speaks to the friendships that were established and destroyed by the war.
3. The ferry scene, the trading post scene, and the Lost Lady Saloon scenes all rule.
4. Of course the confrontation between Ten Bears and Wales is epic, especially Ten Bears's "you are the Gray Rider who would not make peace with the blue coats, you may go in peace" and "there is iron in your words for all Comanche to see."
5. The ending is amongst the best ever, full of meaning and pathos.
To me the most "bad-ass line is when the bounty hunter confronts him in the saloon.
Josey says "You a bounty hunter?"
he replies " Gotta make a livin' somehow."
To which Josey responds "Dyin' ain't much of a livin', boy".
IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT YOU THINK...
thats my favorite film line ever,just forgot it was this film lol i thought it was pale rider or unforgiven.
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"I think I'll try to tell him the war is over. Whatd'you say, Mr Wilson... ?"
Great 'Spartacus' moment, and extraordinarily touching, thanks to the great acting of John Vernon and Clint.
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Ohhh yeah, Howlin Wolf now you are talking, one of the greatest endings ever.
shareThere are so many but if I had to just choose one it's the confrontation between Ten Bears and Josey Wales. Some of the best dialogue in a western ever.
shareThere are so many but if I had to just choose one it's the confrontation between Ten Bears and Josey Wales. Some of the best dialogue in a western ever.Agreed, I look at this scene as being the pinnacle of the film - its themes, its eloquence - there is so much you can say about it. It's poettry.
"That's true. I ain't promising you nothing extra. I'm just giving you life and you're giving me life."
"...and I'm saying that men can live together without butchering one another."
Back when I used to party hard, and the bars closed, me and my roomates would head back to my place and watch The Outlaw Josey Wales, often times fast-forwarding the tape to the Ten Bears/Wales showdown.
I gotta agree with you, biggeorge0069. A most excellent scene.
shareI watched this last night on TCM but think there was a scene missing, but I night be confused. In the past, my favorite scene was when Chief George tackles the person following them, which turns out to be the squaw. She ends up on top of Chief with a knife, but Josey comes up behind her and grabs her arm.
Then the Chief says "Good thing you come around, I would have killed her!"
That always cracked me up, but it was not in last nights showing.
Hey Zorak14 thanks for contributing to the discussion. The scene you are referring to was there, right after they go out into the desert; you must have missed it somehow as the film hasn't been altered since it was released and I too was watching last night. A lot of people like that scene by the way, Chief Dan George had great comedic timing.
shareMy favorite scene was when Lone Watie (Chief Dan George) told Josey about "endeavor to persevere" and ended it by saying, "We thought about it a long time -- `endeavor to persevere'. And when we'd thought about it long enough, we declared war on the Union!"
I can't watch that scene without letting go with a big, delighted Rebel Yell!
"Endeavor to persevere." Lone Waite (Chief Dan George) delivers that line with the cynicism it deserves.
shareThe burning of the coat and top hat at the end of the scene is a nice, subtle touch too - no words, just a quick little shot, keeps the momentum of the film, but it's poetic and says a lot. I like and appreciate those little nuances and thoughtful attention to detail.
shareYeah, I know what you mean Mississippi, I love when Wales blinks real hard after killing Terrill, as if to realize that the nightmare is finally over and he can move on, and then you have the whole Mr. Wilson scene and one of the greatest endings ever: I particularly love Fletcher's look of agony after seeing Wales is bleeding and asking him "What do you say Mr. Wilson?" That is the thing about this film, as Bill Mckinney says on "Hell Hath No Fury: The Making of the Outlaw Josey Wales," it is just "a real straight up, honest film." There is so many themes running through it, one I particularly love is the whole sort of code of honour and loyalty to your friends and helping your fellow man or woman when they are in need. For crying out loud even the "mangey red-boned hound" helps out when everyone is working on the ranch by running a piece of firewood into the house. Not to also mention that Wales has a five thousand dollar reward on his head and anyone of the regulars who become his friends at the Lost Lady saloon desperately could have used that reward money but they go out of their way to protect him, as he does for all those who can't protect themselves in the film. It is just a beautiful film in so many ways. Another thing I love is that Eastwood left it open to the audience to decide whether Wales lives or dies and whether he is going back to the ranch. I read in "The Eastwood Interviews" that they thought of imposing Laura Lee's face into the final shot where Wales is pictured riding off into the sun but Clint decided it wasn't neccessary that they tell the audience that he is going back to her because to do that would insult the audience's intelligence. Clint said we know Wales is going back to her because the audience is willing him to do so.
share"Endeavor to persevere."
Bears, I LOVE that line so much that I use a mangled version of it to blow smoke up my wife's/boss's/whomever's skirt: when faced with a task that I REALLY don't care to do I tell them I'll 'promise to vow to attempt to try to endeavor to persevere...' while actually doing as little as I can...
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I also love this tiny but illuminating detour in the movie. It spotlights some of the absurd treatment the native people endured at the hands of our society.
"We dressed ourselves up like Abraham Lincoln.
We got to see the Secretary of the Interior.
And he said: 'Boy! You boys sure look civilized!'
He congratulated us....and he gave us medals for looking so civilized.
We told him about how our land had been stolen...
and our people were dying.
When we finished, he shook our hands and said: 'Endeavor to persevere.'
They stood us in a line.
They took our pictures.
And the newspaper said: 'Indians Vow to Endeavor to Persevere.'
We thought about it for a long time.
'Endeavor to persevere....endeavor to persevere
And when we had thought about it long enough...
we declared war on the Union."
Powerful stuff.
"We all died a little in that damned war." I am a Viet Nam vet, and that alone makes the movie timeless.
That's the best line ever.
shareYep it's a good one and is so much more than just another line from Wales, and that last scene with he and Fletcher was perfect.
shareThanks, TT. I reckon so.
shareI have over a dozen scenes in this film that are among my all-time favorites from any film ... but overall I'd have to say the ending, hands down. I get chills every time I see it. Haunting. Poignant. Perfect - the music, the writing, the cinematography, the acting ... everything. Perfect.
shareIf I was to pick just one, myself, I would have to agree with Trainus and others about the ending. For me, it was the perfect ending to the perfect film.
shareHaving just watched a little of the film again, one of my other very favorite scenes is the exchange between Watie and Josey just as Josey is about to leave before the final shootout, when Josey explains that sometimes trouble just follows a man. Love it. Has any actor ever uttered "Yeah" in a more emotional, powerful way on film than Chief Dan George does here? The sadness and yet understanding in seeing his friend leave ... always gets me. And then when he disappears while Josey is talking - a neat homage back to the earlier scene when Josey had done the same thing. Nothing more needed to be said. Finally, when Josey emerges from the stable - love the version of "Rose of Alabama" that plays, and the lighting in the scene, with the dark shades of the early morning ... beautiful.
shareWhen Josey and Lone Watie meet the Red Legs outside of the general store and Josey had his hands full. After it was over, Lone Watie asked Josey when one of the four he expected to draw first. After Josey explained who he was looking to draw first, Lone Watie asked him about the fourth man. Josey said he paid him no mind. Lone Watie asked why and Josey said, "I paid him no mind, you were there. Lone Watie said he could have missed. Down the road when they missed the girl who had gotten separated from them, Josey said that is his luck, when I get to liking someone they aren't around very long. Lone Watie replied, I see when you get to disliking someone, they aren't around long either. Great line.
Thank you Ten Bears. That line speaks for all generations, past, present, and unfortunately , future.
shareI liked it when Josey spat tobacco juice on the forehead of the prone dead guy he just dispatched. He does it in two scenes -- once after the ferry crossing and again later at a store. I laughed because it added insult to a man's death.
shareI think the meeting with ten bears is my favorite scene. The film is full of classic scenes and lines though.
"Yeah you showed us boy, now get in line before I kick you so hard you'll be wearing your ass for a hat!"
It's very difficult to tell which part of the film is the best, but I would say the ending. I especially like the part when the simple Rose of Alabamy theme suddenly slows down and, repeating the same notes but adding to them a deep touch of nostalgia, changes into a somehow different piece of music.
At the same time you hear Fletcher saying something like “ if I ever find him, I will tell him that the war is over” and Josey replying something like “I guess we all died a little in that damn war”.
Both men pretend they don't know who the other really is, but so much is going on between them in terms of mutual understanding and admiration, as expressed by their eyes. Then you see Clint jumping on the horse and riding off into the sunset as the sky seems to catch fire around him.
I always found that last scene extremely moving and inspiring. I'm not surprised to hear that the film has been placed in the United States Library of Congress and selected for preservation in their National Film Registry. Classic, classic movie, probably one of the greatest westerns ever made and Clint's true masterpiece.
Well said, couldn't agree more! Definitely one of the best westerns ever made and Clint's best behind and in front of the camera. The last scene with Fletcher is very well done.
sharewhen lone watie is telling his family story and josey just walks away from him. also "just a piece of rock candy, but its not for eatin its just for lookin through" watching this movie right now rated it a 9 dont know why its just one of those i never miss.
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I reckon so
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Always cracks me up
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