Does anyone know what became of Manson's three sons.
The one he knew only as an infant.
The one he had never set eyes on (as stated in his autobiography).
And the one he had by one of his first ever "family member" girls (I can't remember her name - or the name of their bastard).
I know one was killed in a fight, a bar fight I think. The second I think killed himself. The third one, the one he had with Mary Brunner (Pooh Bear), Michael is alive and wants nothing to do with his father.
With the first one - what was the fight over?
Was he accidently or purposely killed?
The second - why did he kill himself?
Michael - did he get himself a university education?
What job does he do for a living?
Does he still have "Manson" as his surname or has he changed it?
Does he have a wife and how many kids?
I posted this, but for some reason it didn't go through
the first one, it was a bar fight as far as I know and someone pulled a shotgun on him. I think it was during the Manson trial.
The second, I don't know...don't quote me on the suicide either. I think I heard that.
Michael (pooh bear) was raised by Mary Brunner's parents, so maybe he has Brunner as a last name or something else. Not sure if he married or not. I know he wanted nothing to do with his father.
These are old but here is some info
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrFzYT1cOMU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yJ80F0eq5A&feature=related
As I said these are old videos.
You are so sweet! (and believe me, sugar has a very narcotic effect on me).
I learnt from the links you gave that Michael BRUNNER looks like his mother and that he has a son.
I wonder if Manson's first son was shot in cold blood during the bar fight because of WHO HIS FATHER WAS as you think it was during THE TRIAL.
Charles Manson is the most famous convict in the US in the same way that Peter Sutcliffe (The Yorkshire Ripper) is the most famous convict here in the UK.
I think Michael is a perfect mix between Mary and Charlie (more so of Charlie when he was younger)
It's a knee-jerk reaction to think that everything goes back to his connection to Manson. But put yourself in his place. Does every event and action in your life revolve around who is in your family? And if he wants nothing to do with his father, why would be bring it up in a bar in front of strangers of all places?
If I had a relative who was evil (and it's debatable that I don't), I wouldn't go bragging about it to strangers. It would be something that, if I felt the need to tell someone, it would be to close friends in confidence.
Unless Michael is stoooo-pud.
I read an article about Michael (aka Valentine Michael Manson aka Pooh Bear) a few years ago in some Sunday newspaper magazine, IIRC. His identity wasn't revealed in the article, just that it's been quite a burden to him to live with the knowledge of who his father is (he apparently does have a relationship with Mary, who cut her ties with the Family many years ago), doesn't acknowledge Charlie as his father, has been divorced a couple of times but finally found the right lady and had been married 10? or so years and had a child with her.
All in all his story sounds like some of the survivors of those Nazi SS Liebenborn farms: It's been hard but like Mary Tyler Moore, "you're going to make it after all."
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I grieved I had no shirt until I met a woman who had no pants.
<< the one he had with Mary Brunner (Pooh Bear), Michael is alive and wants nothing to do with his father. >>
This defies all Biblical teachings. "Honor Thy Father and Mother."
One of the Commandments. Read it.
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And the Manson Family defied so many Biblical teachings as well.
You shall have no other gods before me
Thou shalt not kill/Murder
Thou shalt not steal
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour
and many more....so what is your point?
He had no point, except the perverted desire to be an @$$hat. He succeeded beyond his wildest dreams.
"It ain't dying I'm talking about, it's LIVING!"
Captain Augustus McCrae
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I think it was really only Susan's baby that happened to. There weren't really that many babies in the family. As far as I know it was Mary, Susan, Sandy and later Ruth. Linda as well, but she already had a child. She got pregnant later, around the time of the murders and had her baby in jail. Her family took the baby. Dennis Rice brought his kids with him.
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