Where did all the thugs come from why were they attacking?
I am a little confused they started out with 4 and all of the sudden there were 50.
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I thought the exact same thing. I don't understand the love for this movie. It makes no sense, has scant dialogue, and the "witty script" that people have referred to is comprised mainly of Wilson saying, "do you have a smoke?" which is a laughably bad line even for the decade.
The entire plot seems unjustified and the camera actions/ lighting is dodgy as hell throughout. I like a classic old movie as much as the next man, but this was simply lame.
"oh mummy, oh daddy - lets all play Kabadi!"
They didn't start out with 4, the 4 were the leaders of the gang.
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Okay, to answer why they were attacking, it was because the dad shot one of the four leaders. That was it. Part of the point is that it is such a short scene and no one else knows about it, but it justifies the entire rest of the film.
"What difference do you think you can make, one man in all this madness?"
I loved the atmosphere of this film but I have to agree that the setup was almost non existent in terms of a believable or logical motivation for the bad guy characters. Some no name gang members get killed by cops just because they're in the middle of committing a crime and refused to give themselves up, so their non speaking,tastefully ethnically diverse brethren swears a blood oath of revenge on the cops and the town. The gang then proceeds to go on one of the most pointless, ineffectual yet tragic and avant garde shooting sprees ever committed to film which consists of going up and down a road past a terrified and inexplicably stationary ice cream man who dutifully hangs around so as to ensure his death. Then the leader shoots a young innocent girl, who is in turn killed by her vengeful father in a way that seems way too easy, he doesn't even make an effort to shoot at the father. Then, the legion of gang members who are supposedly crazed with bloodlust can't even get the dad who's holed up in a cop shop with only a skeleton crew and flimsy doors. They don't appear to strategise at all, rather blindly running headfirst into gunfire but yet are able to disappear skillfully into the night and use silencers so as not to wake the neighbours.
"Be vewwy vewwy quiet. Hundreds of us gang members are ineptly trying to storm this almost abandoned police station!" *Tippy toes*
To answer why they were attacking, the police had taken down members of the gang in the opening. Next you see other gang members cutting themselves and collecting their blood-they're swearing a blood oath to avenge the dead gang members by attacking the police and also by committing acts of random violence on the street. The movie was inspired by Rio Bravo and also Night of the Living Dead, which is why the gang members have almost no dialogue. They are meant to be seen as a mysterious force of irrational violence.
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Exactly this. I don't understand how the other morons above you could even ask such questions. Did some of you even watch the film or not?
"Be vewwy vewwy quiet. Hundreds of us gang members are ineptly trying to storm this almost abandoned police station!" *Tippy toes*
I'm dying :D
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I found this more entertaining in a bad way. The whole thing with the ice cream truck guy, WHAT WAS THAT?
shareThe whole thing with the ice cream truck guy, WHAT WAS THAT?
I always thought that was obvious. The cache of weapons had fallen into the gang's hands and they were itching to try them out. They've got all these nice new silenced weapons and they're basically itching to see if they can cap some random person in the middle of the city in broad daylight and get away with it because of the silencers.
Why the ice cream guy? That's made obvious in the scene where the gang-leaders are cruising in the car and the "white warlord" almost squeezes the trigger on some random passers-by. But then he hears the ice cream truck jingle, and it gets his attention, so they decide to kill the ice-cream guy instead. There's no deeper reason for it.
The warlord is a psycho and he just wants to try out his shiny new silenced firearm on someone. The girl and her father just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, and none of what happened later in the film would've happened at all if the girl had just got the right ice cream first time of asking.
It's a random sequence of events - but in a lot of ways it's way more realistic than most over-plotted films, because real life is random like that. Why does any psycho pick one person and not another? Because that person got the psycho's attention and the other didn't. Simple as that. share
They didn't need a logical or believable motivation. This wasn't that type of film.
shareI don't want to sound arrogant, but the answer is obvious. They made a facebook event as soon as the father ran into the police station
Are you dumb? There was NO Facebook back in 1976 so your answer is not obvious
sharelandlines and they all called each other
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1976: they could have used CB radios, or unlicensed VHF 2-way radios.
sharePretty sure he was being facetious.
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