Rosie Greenbaum
Why is the actress who played Rosie never mentioned under the list of guests? Who is she? What was her name. She was always my favorite guest.
shareWhy is the actress who played Rosie never mentioned under the list of guests? Who is she? What was her name. She was always my favorite guest.
shareHer name is Carole Ita White.
shareI find it strange that she is never listed as a guest on Laverne & Shirley, as Rosie. She is listed as "Girl A" in one early episode. If you look her up on IMDB it never lists "Rosie" under her credits. I wonder why?
shareBecause that was her first role on the show. She came back a few episodes later as Rosie. IMDB only lists th firsts roles and then... and never the second cahracter
shareRosie basically resents Laverne for 2 reasons :
1. Laverne is still single and dating and
2. Laverne doesn't put up with her attitude
and allow Rosie to feel like she's better than everyone.
Rosie really seemed "soft" and Miss White seemed to be out of character in that episode at the Pizza Bowl,where she and others remenisce about the girls (can you say "clip show"?)
Rosie seems to be talking about Laverne & Shirley fondly and not obnoxious at all. I don;t think there was any "big" reason for her not appearing again,except to say that "Rosie" is what's known asa "one joke character".
She shows up where Laverne is,she & Laverne mix words/insults,
they "almost" physically fight,Shirley breaks it up (or something does.)
Why Rosie would still act the same at the 10 year high school reunion,to me,is just silly. People grow and change and it seems she didn't. (There's the best reason of all not to continue inthat role).
Go for it or just be a gopher!
(MR.) happipuppi13 đ *arf,man!*
She is the daughter of Jesse 'Maytag Repairman' White.
shareShe was great in the first few episodes she appeared in. Later, the character seemed to have softened a bit.
shareI thought Carole Ita White overacted horribly as Rosie Greenbaum. I know it was a sitcom, but she was much too transparent.
I thought it was somewhat odd that Rosie referred to Laverne exclusively by her last name. That is something that men do much more frequently than women.
I just saw that Carole Ita White, who played Laverne's archenemy Rosie Greenbaum, came out as bisexual. Notthattheresanythingwrongwiththat.
Maybe the heat between Laverne and Rosie was sexual.
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http://poppycockdc.blogspot.com/2010/01/carole-ita-white-is-queerspawn.html
Tuesday, January 19, 2010
Carole Ita White is a QueerSpawn
Carole Ita White is probably best known for her role as âBig Rosie Greenbaumâ on Laverne & Shirley. She was born in New City to actors, father Jesse White and mother, Celia âSimmyâ Cohn.
White has made many guest star appearances on such popular shows as Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman, The Love Boat, Beverly Hills 90210 and the Profiler. She continues to appear in small roles in films over years, including The Witches of Eastwick, Grand Canyon and Falling Down.
In an interview with Sirius Out Q today, Jan. 19, 2010, not only did Carole come out as bisexual but also revealed that her mom disclosed that she was a lesbian and Carole also stated that so always thought that her dad might have had a relationship with men, but she will always just have to guess.
She was eccentric. I think they meant her to be an exaggerated version of a lower middle class girl that married rich.
Last name calling are a sign of aggression for women and more of friendship for men. It showed their distaste for each other.
Thank you for the insightful analysis. Rosie wasn't just an obnoxious woman who Laverne hated. She was new money. She probably still associated with her old acquaintances so she could flaunt her new found wealth. I am sure her husband's associates looked down on Rosie and her thick working class accent. She didn't exactly look like a trophy wife to me.
shareMaybe he had to marry her because she was pregnant.
shareWere people even permitted to say the word "pregnant" in polite conversation in the '50s? I guess that is what could happen if you vo-dee-o-doe-doe.
I can't believe Rosie was in a cast photo. Please click on
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I considered her a guest, not a member of the cast. She appeared in only twelve episodes.
It wasn't said on TV but people said it in real life.
shareWas Greenbaum her married name or her maiden name? Many people still refer to women by their maiden name if they are old friends. And Rosie was old "friends" with Laverne. Why did Shirley always break it up when Laverne wanted to fight Rosie? Rosie was also condescending to Shirley.
shareThat's a good point. One would think they had referred to each other by their last names for years prior to Rosie's marriage yet even the others still call her "Rosie Greenbaum".
I guess the viewers weren't meant to notice, good job.
I can't believe Rosie was in a cast photo. Please click onShe was considered a series regular during season 2, and was billed with the other regulars during that year. When she appeared in season 3, she was billed as a guest star. share
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Laverne_and_Shirley_cast_1976.JPG
I considered her a guest, not a member of the cast. She appeared in only twelve episodes.
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I liked all the main and recurring characters. I was not a fan of Rosie Greenbaum. I understand not all characters are supposed to be likable. But Rosie was unbelievable and too over the top. Did Rosie still live in or near the neighborhood or did she just like to visit to rub their noses in her new money? I wasn't a fan, but it would have been fun if they brought back Laverne's nemesis once in a while after season three.
shareI liked Rosie because she was the only girl as tough as Laverne. And was there ever a better example of a woman with a manly walk? hahaha
shareShe actually appeared in the first season, not as Rosie, but just a tough biker chick who bullied Laverne and Shirley at a pool/bar (?). At least I presume she wasn't Rosie since no one identified her.
shareThis was her first appearance on the show and yes, she was not Rosie. She was just to be a tough girl who fourght Laverne and Shirley, but there is definitely something ODD going on when she appears.
I get the impression she and the blonde were to be some tough 'bimbo' version of L&S, but I really think Carol Ita is working it.
And I have no idea who did her makeup there, but it was nearly a decade before the new wave movement. She is wild looking.
But when she tells L&S, "you're going nowhere, sister," she is interrupted by the audience' laughter. She is stealing the scene, so clearly she was brought back to antagonize Laverne.
She softened early on in the Honeymoon Hotel episode, and at the Baby Shower, as well, but the Fabian episode ripped her to pieces.
Who knows why she didn't become some sort of regular. It would have been three to three then, Laverne, Rosie and Shirley to Lenny, Carmine and Squiggy.
When she returned in the high school reunion, I didn't care for that at all. Loved seeing the Terry Buttafucco actress again, but a nice Rosie was awful.
She definitely had a lot of chemistry between Laverne and Shirley---ESPECIALLY Laverne. I have no idea why the writers chose to subdue Rosie. Yes, she absolutely "chewed the scenery," but lightening struck when she was there in the first few episodes.
I wish the character was used more, but I don't think in every episode. I think seeing her too much would have sort of neutralize the character---even played originally. However, maybe in seven or eight episodes would've worked.
I think there was some wish to include her, hence the softening, but as has become apparent, these were all young performers who probably didn't think about being typecast as DeFazio or Squigman, so they were hoping for greener pastures, so to speak, and not being such regulars.
I've become aware of how a lot of this in Hollywood plays out mainly by Darren McGavin in The Natural. I think he is uncredited (it's been a while since I've seen that movie) but it seems he wasn't thinking in a sense of it being a career maker for him. A lot of pay, credit (before or after the title?) was being figured into it. I gather from a show he did with Burt Reynolds in the fifties, he had a bit of an ego (which is odd, he seemed game to the silliness of Airport '77 and it's all-star cast, and likewise to Murphy Brown appearances).
I don't think Carol Ita White had an ego, per se, but I think her agent and negotiations and what-have-you, did she want to do a regular show (someone else got me to thinking, she'd have been a lot more welcome than Phil Foster or Betty Garrett), but also, this was Happy Days-Laverne and Shirley. They really didn't know how to keep an antagonist around on such a regular basis without making them one of the family (Greenbaum and the others went to high school together, they had that history).
It may have come across like trying to make Officer Kirk a regular on Happy Days.
She could have easily stepped in and like Lucille Lockworth or Lockridge, just whisked Carmine out of the picture. She would have been more than welcomed.
I'm watching the shows on Me and I really didn't catch on to Shirley and Carmine's 'break-up' over thirty years ago, so this is all kind of new to me.
But Carmine seems to be swept out of many episodes anyway, then only to sing or something. It was mostly Laverne, Shirley, Squiggy, Lenny.
I think there were some episodes where L&S entered some swank parties and had Rosie been there, she would have toned down the uneasiness of the girls not belonging, or sent it in another direction.
Good God, imagine if Rosie had been there when Laverne got hit with that punch bowl!
Yeah, I never understood why Hollywood (television) never really seemed to keep an antagonist like Rosie sharp and edgy, without eventually undermining all of the characteristics that made her so absolutely great in the first place.
There are some though. However the only one I can think of now is Aunt Esther from SANFORD & SON.
Redd Foxx and Lawanda Page were childhood friends, as well as they understood the people, the characters and characterizations.
And again, Esther did 'mellow' slightly. I've always felt when she performed and set her fingers on fire, even tho that was Lawanda Page's old stage act, was something 'Esther' would have never done, but that is probably the only film recording of her being able to do that.
But her appearance on the single Sanford show, she was back true to form. The audience actually sighed when she said she was a widow, meaning Woodrow had obviously passed away.
Who knows? White may have been against Rosie as a regular because the show couldn't grasp her as an endless rival and sought to tone her down, hence why Rosie didn't stay.
She clearly had volumes, that's for sure.
I would think the writers could have been creative enough to have effectively have her appear in maybe about five episodes per season. Occasionally a side character (as opposed to regular, supporting one) becomes quite famous, thus forcing producers to give him or her special acknowledgement in the credits---AND paycheck.
shareRosie was in a 're-cap' episode recently shown on MeTV, so there was some hope early on to keep her. The amazing thing is she didn't cross over to Happy Days or get re-characterized into Mork & Mindy or even Nancy Walker's Blansky's Beauties.
The same thing which strangely happened with Lawanda Page.
Rosie obviously needs a very strong character to play off of. I can see her easily going toe-to-toe with Fonzie and Nancy Walker, but I'm not sure where she'd fit in on MORK & MINDY. In a different form, I can easily see her against Archie Bunker and Beatrice Arthur---though ALL IN THE FAMILY and MAUDE were a wee bit before her time.
(For the record I do realize I'm mixing character and actor names!)