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Pardon me, but is this a comedy?


I watched the first twenty minutes of this on TCM, and was turned off so much so that I changed the channel. The invasion of the home began as a tense action sequence, where the father, husband, estate owner, is chopped down with a sword after a rather heroic stand. Three minutes later, the woman he was dining with is laughing at the English Muslim, completely void of all concern for the children, or the dead. I don't mind comedy in action/adventure movies, but, not there, and not like that. Whatever THAT was, it killed the mood of the film, and the subsequent scenes didn't immediately improve it... so I gave up.

Disappointing, considering TCM, Connery, and an epic plot.

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I like the movie much better than you, but I'll grant you that the tone is uneven. I think the clash of cultures is sometimes played for laughs, the atmosphere is more romantic than historical, and at the movie's heart Connery plays The Raisuli much larger than life, which lightens the mood, even in the face of tragic events. His dry reading of the line, "Mrs Perdicaris, you're a lot of trouble," is wonderful.

The movie is fun, and I find it very quotable. Perhaps in a different mood, with different expectations, you'll find more to enjoy. It isn't "Lawrence of Arabia." It's more "The Adventures of Robin Hood," or "The Flame and the Arrow."

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I don't know if I'd call it a comedy but it's certainly a light-hearted adventure flick and not to be taken overly seriously. I thought Sir Joseph's shootout with the Raisuli's men was pretty damned funny itself. I can honestly say I have no idea what the hell your complaint is; if you don't like the tone fair enough, but "not there and not like that" - what does that mean?

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"I thought Sir Joseph's shootout with the Raisuli's men was pretty damned funny itself."

I didn't, and judging by the plot, the cast, the channel, I expected a serious film. Because you DID find it funny, even that opening scene, which was built with quite a suspense, including the gang slashing people on the streets on their way (funny), of course it would be difficult to understand the complaint, which is, of laughter and a near total disregard only minutes after the man's death by the woman. Not to mention, she is near giddy, even while a rough foreign man is securing a young girl on his horse. I don't know, given the circumstances, I'd be petrified and in a near daze, not laughing at some tyrant as he tries getting on his horse.

So, that is what I mean by "not there and not like that". If they wanted to transition this movie into an adventure/comedy, that is fine. I love Indiana Jones, and one certainly knows that there are some dark points. But that would be like watching the a man's heart being pulled out of his chest and then in the very next scene, not more than one minute later, Short Round pulling an ace out of Indy's sleeve and screaming about him being a cheat in comical fashion...

Obviously both these scenes work in the same movie, in my opinion, but, as the first responder said, the tone was a bit "uneven". It turned me off.

Finally, I've seen you over at FG plenty. My post does have a sarcastic tone to it... don't bother with that. I like your posts. We apparently saw something very different in the first 20 minutes of this movie though.

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What, the English gentleman casually getting up from his tea, whipping out a revolver, cutting down half a dozen brigands and muttering "Damn!" in a bored fashion before getting decapitated isn't funny? I guess one could argue it's not in practice, but it's clearly humorous in intent. That scene is laughably over-the-top (in a good way IMO), like the guy goes through this every day. For me, that bit is the first clear indicator of what the audience is in for - something simultaneously awesome and ridiculous.

In regard to the laughter, it seems perfectly appropriate to me. I have the movie's novelization (yeah I'm a loser) and it stresses this is nervous laughter, Eden letting off a mixture of fear, nervousness, incredulity and defiance. Doesn't seem too out of place or inappropriate to me.

Frankly, I don't think there's much serious material in this film. It all seems very tongue-in-cheek and borderline satirical, from the off-handed tone to the constant injections of humor. It touches on serious issues (imperialism etc.) and has a lot of violent action but it's clearly pitched at the level of an escapist adventure film.

Then again I think the scene where the diplomats and military leaders plot the downfall of the Bashaw is absolutely hysterical too. Of course, I choose to interpret that scene as satire and not a blatant endorsement of militarism, which may be personal naivety.

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No, you're just a complete moron for not embracing this film.

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