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The ending is so wrong.

posted 11 years ago by missmisfit-1
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I know that it was the 70's & cynicism was rife & many think "Happy Endings" are dumb or something but I think Joanna should have found a way to cause the Men's Association's downfall.

If this movie is about feminism, it's apparently pro-feminist but it seems to be saying that no matter what women do to achieve the equality they deserve they will fail forever!

Pessimistic, defeatist.

Defeatism doesn't inspire people. Defeatism doesn't raises morale. If Ira Levin wanted to support feminism, he would make something that raised morale. Yes, the Men's Association are despicable but why must they win in the end? Why not show a glimmer of hope?

True, it was the 70's and the folks were weary of the way things were going with Vietnam & whatnot. 70's films express this ennui. But why couldn't they be uplifting? We needed movies that raised morale, not destroy it!

I think someone should rewrite this but change the ending but not in the way the remake did (the remake missed the point of the whole thing & was really stupidly done).

I see many movies as having a social message, even if it's just "entertainment" but movies seem to be defeatist with a Hobbesian view of humanity. Yes, I agree that humanity is flawed but I feel humanity can "think big" & "reach higher".

In MY version of The Stepford Wives, the Men's Association & their evil scheme will fail. There would also be a few sympathetic male characters to represent the good men of the world, the allies.

I love to look in the heads of both Ira Levin & the movie makers. Why write it that way? What's the point?

Why pessimism? Why defeat?

Screw defeat! We as a species need MORE "Happy Endings"! Real life has enough injustice & downer endings on it's own! We need a version of The Stepford Wives where the message is "Yes, you can fight against the oppressors and triumph! Never give up!".

[–] brunhilda2013 11 years ago

I know, I found the ending a real downer too. But there's always fan fiction. If anybody knows of any Stepford stories with happy endings I'd love to read them.

[–] Sober-Friend 9 years ago

The ending was the correct ending. These women were defeated by men. Nobody was around to help them

[–] cooler56 11 years ago

It's dystopic. It's supposed to be defeatist. Think 1984.

[–] missmisfit-1 10 years ago

That means nothing. Dystopias can be overthrown. The original "Star Wars" trilogy comes to mind.

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[–] Roddenhyzer 11 years ago

Just let people tell their stories, for f'ck's sake. Not everything has to have its dramatic integrity compromised by tendentiousness, or by having to serve as the movie equivalent of a "Hang in there!" poster.

[–] Duragizer 11 years ago

I'm not fond of the ending, either, but for somewhat different reasons than yours. I think Joanna should have managed to kill some of the bastards -- her husband and/or Coba -- and put up a fight against her robot duplicate before dying herself.

I'm Heather Langenkamp's husband in another universe.

[–] missmisfit-1 10 years ago

Perhaps a compromise between a happy & sad ending would even work.

How about Joanna having cool computer skills. Before the climax, she finds the central computer that controls the fembots. Just then the bot version of her comes & the story ends like the original.....

.....buuuuuut....then, the Joanna-bot comes home from the grocery store & goes to make some stew. Joanna-bot cuts a carrot as her hubby starts gettin' fresh with her.....

....a sinister smile crosses her lips....her knife-wielding hand slowly raises.....

....CUT TO....a news report showing footage of Stepford in flames! The mutilated bodies of the guys litter the streets.....

...Thus, Joanna, posthumously saves the day, gets the last laugh, the bad guys wiped out because she hacked the program & made a bunch of killer fembots who become bombs after slicin' & dicin'.

Okay, so it's the 70's and the whole "hacker" trope wasn't all the rage but it would make a cool twist.

I don't mind grimness per-se....provided the dark ending is bittersweet than a complete downer. The Exorcist comes to mind, where it's basically a draw. The demon achieved it's goal of causing Merrin's heart attack death but Regan the young girl is freed from the demon via a heroic sacrifice by Father Karras (he had his Last Rites read to him as he lay dying, so it's assumed he goes to Heaven). Pazuzu succeeds in causing the PHYSICAL deaths of two priests but fails in getting the little girl.

I never could understand why grim, nihilistic movies were so big in the 70's. If societies were going through a big funk, wouldn't it make better sense to get into escapism?

THE 1930's-40's: The Great Depression & a new Great War is going on, let's stay positive and enjoy some escapism to keep our spirits up!

THE late 60s-1970's: Vietnam is still going, the youth movement has seen better days, the best leaders have been assassinated & we wear all this silly polyester...LET'S WATCH SHOWS THAT WALLOW IN MISERY!

I could never understand that. Not just with the 70's but with any time. When times are rough, we like entertainment that reflects that....it's masochistic. I don't get it. I just don't!

If you're in a metaphorical dark room and hate the darkness, you turn on the light switch, not close the blinds!

[–] speedy1383 10 years ago

I loved the ending. The ending for the remake was horrible horrible. The original was great. I don't need happy endings. This felt right. This is exactly like life. Life doesn't go as planned. Movies are the same way. If all of them ended on a good note, that would be awful

[–] tabbycat 10 years ago

I don't think horror thrillers are for you, my friend.

This is not a film about feminism. It's about evil, and how conspiracies allow it to persist and grow.
Joanna cannot win here because she never sees that the Association is always three steps ahead of her, a concept central to a good thriller. There are other genres where the heroine can prevail, but this isn't one.

What did you feel at the final frame? Sadness? Mission accomplished. Ultimately, horror really is just Shakespearean tragedy, except the protagonist's only "fatal flaw" may be their humanity.

The ending is powerful, tragic and sad. In other words, perfect.

"Why?
Because we can."

[–] missmisfit-1 10 years ago

You can still have a horror film full of horrible horror stuff and still have good & humanity win, my friend. Even those cheesy slasher flicks often had that "final girl" dispatching the spooky masked killer. Even Poltergeist had Carol Anne freed from "The Beast" on various occasions.

The thing is, if a scary story has a social message (like Stepford Wives' 'feminism' theme), one assumes there's a social message, an important point being made.

I know that unhappy endings exist in real life. I know there's injustice. I know that sometimes the bad guys win & there's no comeuppance. I'm not naive.

But I just don't understand the "Grim Times Needs Grim Stories" mindset.

[–] franzkabuki 10 years ago

"Pessimistic, defeatist".

How about true to life? Either way the film was making a point there and a happy ending would have undercut the whole thing. You sort of sound like you're brainwashed into believing false idylls yourself.

"facts are stupid things" - Ronald Reagan

[–] lanatic001 10 years ago

From what I can remember (and it's many years since I've read it) the book has a very similar ending. Thus the film makers were true to the original story (if only that happened more!)

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[–] fiatlux-1 10 years ago

Not even one of them felt guilty about it or regretted it, seriously?

That floored me too. I guess it was to show exactly HOW evil these men were.
The leader, Diz, knew how to pick 'em.
The author of the novel, Ira Levin, also wrote 'Rosemary's Baby'. In that novel also, the males are all 100% icy-cold.
Same thing here I guess.

In the film, we do see (very very briefly) some 'regret'. Joanna's husband talks of his uncertainty to Diz, who in turn eases his mind.
Same with Ed Wimperis, we see him crying & drunk after killing his wife Charmaine.

But...BOTH men get over it really quick.

I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush.