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Connection with Ballard's 'High-Rise'/Class Attack?


I'm in the midst of reading JG Ballard's novel "High-Rise," and can't help but see the incredible similarities between its story and "Shivers." Seeing that Cronenberg is familiar with Ballard's work ("Crash" being the bext example of his knowledge), has he ever mentioned "High-Rise" as a source for "Shivers'" story?

Also, I noticed another discussion on this board pertaining to "Shivers" being an attack on the bourgeoisie (and this possibly being incorrectly defined as the upper-class). Ballard's novel can certainly be read as, at the very least, an attack on the middle-class's desire to contain itself from the other classes, and "Shivers" seems to have a similar pretext. The apartment complex in both narratives are basically gated, integrated communities filled with relatively well-to-do white people (although Ballard's has a literally rising caste system). The fact that Cronenberg's story includes not only sexual debauchery as a point of anxiety/destruction, but that this debauchery is introduced from an outside source (a monstrous, genitally formed parasite), further solidifies the argument that "Shivers" is indeed making a statement against a privileged and contained class system, whether this statement was intended or not.

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Funny you should mention "High Rise" I read Ballard's novel a few years ago and noticed the similarities right away, this is the first time I have had anyone else mention it though. As for the class struggle I don't really see it in "Shivers" though the setting and eventual collapse into chaos definitly fits, so I guess they share more of an overall feel and tone than theme.


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Same here. Saw Shivers many years ago, always liked Cronenberg's films. Started reading Ballard about five years ago, as soon as I read High Rise it clicked. Cronenberg must have read it and used it as the inspiration for the luxury "Starliner" and it's aspirational tenants.

Ballard, however, makes no reference to turd-like parasites!

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I just read this article: http://www.sensesofcinema.com/contents/cteq/01/19/shivers.html. It said:

"The Starliner Towers certainly can be read to symbolise close-minded communities, or nations, where only the elite and wealthy are welcome to share in the comforts of consumerism and isolationism. By indulgently denying the existence of the outside world, such a community is doomed to generate its own set of problems and eventually self-destruct. Very similar ideas are found in J. G. Ballard's novel High Rise, which coincidentally was also published in 1975. "

The reviewer may be uninformed, but this site seems pretty competent.

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If the class struggle is understood as fight against any form of oppression (leading not only to the replacement of the ruling class by another, but to the absolute abolition of classes), and the repression of the instincts is a social form of oppression (read Sigmund Freud's "Totem and Taboo" for the relation between the prohibition of incest as the cause of society: also "Eros and Civilization" by Herbert Marcuse, for the revolutionary character of the sexual liberation) then the parasite seems to be the failed hippie movement - didn't they argued to "make love, not war"?

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I always assumed that the parasites symbolized yer average Canadian's fear of the pervasive influence of American pop culture.

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"High Rise" is a great novel, one of Ballard's best. I'd also recommend his short story "The Intensive Care Unit" (from the collection "Myths of The Near Future" (1982)) as it has some similarities with Cronenberg's "Videodrome". The whole notion of 'television is reality, and reality is less than television' seems to come through in that story.

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I don't think it's inconceivable that they independently decided to tackle the same subject. They were both responding to similar social changes, after all. The cloistered high rise was just coming into its own then.

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The similarities are indeed remarkable.

Unfortunately for your argument, High Rise was first published in 1975, and Shivers was written in 1972, then filmed and completed entirely in 1974.

Case closed.

The delayed release was due to the storm of controversy it stirred up in Canadian parliament, about public money going into 'pornography'.

Synchronicity, serendipity, the wonders of the collective unconscious, and two artists with similar sensibilities and near-identical literary influences, but no direct transfer of ideas from one to the other.

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Mainly Cronenberg on Cronenberg, by Chris Rodley.

Also, did you not check this: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073705/business?

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Cronenberg directed The Victim in August of 1975 and The Lie Chair in October of 1975. Shivers was finished before he directed those shorts. A long, long time before.

Quote from Chris Rodley in Cronenberg on Cronenberg:

"No less outrageous than the imagery of Shivers was the film's budget: approximately Can.$180,000. In true guerrilla film-making style, the film commenced shooting in Montreal in August 1974, on an improbable production schedule for a major special-effects piece."

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rnlol is correct. "Shivers" was written well before "High Rise." The similarities you've uncovered can be attributed to their common literary influences, William Burroughs' works included.

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You, sir, are a very smart guy. I love both High-Rise and Shivers. Very similar thematically.

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