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Barbara Jean = Loretta Lynn


According to a recent NY Times review of a Loretta Lynn concert (http://tinyurl.com/5wmjft).
One part reads:
"After “Your Squaw Is on the Warpath,” when she began to ramble on about her mother’s American Indian heritage, she was swiftly interrupted by her bandleader, Bart Hansen, who asked if he could introduce the band."

YIKES!!

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Barbara Jean was probably inspired by Loretta Lynn, yes.
Barbara Jean = Loretta Lynn, no.

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Okay... I'm not saying they are ONE AND THE SAME and I do know that Loretta Lynn was part of the inspiration from the character (a very large part actually).
However, it's that she started rambling on with some story during a performance that warrants the "=" sign.
Sheeeesssshhhhh....

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So, if anyone starts rambling on with some story during a performance that warrants the "=" sign?
The "=" sign means "equals"- "is identical with"- "they are ONE AND THE SAME". Unless you mean they are ONE AND THE SAME, it's wiser not to use it.
Sheeeesssshhhhh....

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Patsy Cline never had a breakdown on stage and wasn't prone to collapses. she would have considered that unacceptable. Barbara jean, like Loretta, had her husband traveling with her as her road manager and as someone to basically take care of her. Loretta collapsed a time or two and one night she just had a nervous breakdown on stage and started talking to the audience as if they all were members of her family. Coal Miner's Daughter was true to it's subject. Plus, Loretta, like Barbara jean, never forgot where she came from and knew not how to be pretentious. If Barbara Jean is based on someone else also, it would have ben Tammy Wynette, Nashville's Drama Queen.

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Sissy's name had been brought up. among other names, to play Loretta. Sissy wasn't exactly keen on the idea for whatever reason and would have probably turned it down. Tt was Loretta herself who kept mentioning in interviews and telling everyone "And that little Sissy Spacek is going to play me!" Sissy hadn't agreed to do the film and was miffed at the idea that this woman, whom she had never met, would just blurt out things she had no idea were true and putting Sissy in this akward situation. So, a angered Sissy called Loretta up and ask her if they could meet, that she had something to get straight with Loretta. So,they met after one of Loretta's shows. "The second I saw her, I knew I was the one. I saw myself in Loretta and I felt connected to this outspoken unpretentious down-home gem of a lady. I felt like she was my sister or something." and agreed on the spot to do the movie. "I didn't know our singing voices were so familiar but Loretta could tell from the way I spoke and the way I hummed that I could imitate her singing voice." Altman had nothing to do with it.

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No. I never read anything about that. He was probably happy for her. Sissy worked with Alan Rudolph in 1977 and Rudolph got his start working as assistant director on Nashville. Directly after Nashville, Rudolph goes off and directs his own music-related film "Welcome To LA" for Altman's film company "Lion's Gate". This is the movie that Sissy "hummed" in. And she reminded us of Loretta.. soft-spoken and whole-some looking. "Virginia-ish"
Possibly Loretta was contacted by Joan Tewkesbury and Robert Altman and asked if it would be alright to use an "obvious" Loretta Lynn-type character in a nationally released film. (There could have been a lawsuit.) Barbara-Jean was so obviously based on Loretta that everyone in the audience would have figured it out anyway. Same with some other characters the rest of the picture..

This might have been where Loretta met all Altman's people. Maybe at one of those cast parties Altman was so fond of throwing. All of Altman and Rudolph's cast people seemed to be "bubblized" One big happy working family. So Loretta became a friend. Loretta might have, after meeting all of them, tuned in to Rudolph's movie and obviously that's where she saw Sissy!

This whole post sounds a bit incestuous

You have to take the seventies country music scene and it's most famous stars at the time into consideration when discussing Nashville, the movie. Charlie Pride was the ONLY black guy making hit records. It was difficult for him, working in a city making records for fans who were primarily white. Charlie Pride was a ground breaking artist and his peers did refer to him as an "oreo" and "The whitest N_____in town" on plenty of occasions.
Little Jimmie Dickens, A purest, with his Nudie Suits and big old guitar HATED what was taking over in the new generation. Jimmie Dickens (yes, he's STILL alive) was present when Loretta Lynn made her first appearance on the Grand Old Opry. I don't know if they were friends or not... Jimmie Dickens was, and probably still is an A__H___

And simply by mentioning fiddle player, Vassar Clements conjures up the face of the new generation coming to town. Vassar worked with rock acts as well as country acts.

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One of the biggest controversies about this film is that the country singers were rather blatantly physically modeled after actual country music entertainers even if their characters were not actually a roman a clef. Barbara Jean has always been widely written about as "based" on Loretta Lynn. Even Loretta comments about this in her autobiography. The minor role of a black country singer is inspired by Charley Pride, the Henry Gibson character is based on Roy Acuff, the Keith Carradine inspired by Kris Kristofferson, and the Karen Black character influenced by Lynn Anderson.

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Now that you mention it, it seems both characters could be considered composites of these stars. Henry Gibson's character is supposed to be like country music's "ambassador" much like Roy Acuff was the flagship star of the Grand Ole Opry and "King of Country Music"; Hank Snow if anything was even more of an egomaniac (I remember reading where he refused to appear on tv shows where he was asked to participate in melodies which most older stars would accept with no problem but Hank insisted getting a full song!) and Gibson does look and sound more like Hank. Karen Black looks totally modeled on Lynn Anderson physically but Tammy might be considered more of a rival to Loretta so it's probably a combo of the two.

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