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Why was Basil so taken aback at the doctor?


When he is in hospital creating a ruckus,the doc appears and Fawlty's mood changes, he looks shocked, shuts up and grins politely as if he was seeing something out of the ordinary

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My guess is because the doctor was black- Basil probably didn't expect to see ANYONE as he walked out of the room, let alone a black man!

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But England is now multicultural, even in the ruralist areas...there are scores of white English people in jail for 'racism'

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Yes, but remember that FT is from the 70s, the episode we're talking about was screened for the first time in 1975, when black people on TV (English TV at least) were rare.

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Basil always had an irrational fear of Doctors. I assume it was in case they certified him!

Check the episode with Dr Price where one of the guests dies. Basil acts completely differently around him.

Was it a millionaire who said "Imagine no possessions"?

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As another poster wrote it's because he's black. Multiculturalism was not a tag in the Britain of the 1970's, which was a period of overt racism.

A bird sings and the mountain's silence deepens.

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Not only were they overtly racist, the fact is it was very unusual to see black people in any sort of professional capacity. It all started to change in the 60's and 70's, and by the mid 70's, they started to get a head in into different fields. Up until then, in most peoples minds, black people = criminals.

So, the joke is, when Basil see a black person (for the first time in the series) his inital reaction is that it must be some sort of mugger, and he immediately go into defense position to fight himself out of the situation. And it's a joke that it simply never occured to him that black person would be an actual doctor.

So, it's not only a joke about racism, but about peoples (at the time) perception of black people, and where they could be find. In a sense, it's a joke about general prejudice and changing time. And yes, it's a joke that's completely incomprehensible if you weren't there at that time and knew these things....

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I am one of those you label 'they'.

A bird sings and the mountain's silence deepens.

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So, what's your point? Do you mean by that that you are a racist, or did you take umbrage being pegged as a racist? It should be obvious "they" referred to "The British people of 70's" in general, and Basil Fawlty in particular.

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I could be totally wrong, but I believe Poppy is pointing out the manner in which you refer to BLACK PEOPLE as "they", Chester. It's a poor choice of phraseology - see how careful you have to be, with changing trends in language?

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He was startled because he didn't expect to see 'anyone' when he turned around - and especially not a scary looking black dude with that demonic beard. I don't see how it follows that he's racist necessarily.



"facts are stupid things" Ronald Reagan

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especially not a scary looking black dude with that demonic beard.


oh my god I thought I was the only one who thought that!

Reading the paper can really be depressing. Mr. Dithers fired Dagwood again.

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Doctors in the UK in the 1970s were highly respected people. We see Basil acting in a very obsequious manner to a guest (a doctor) in "The Psychiatrist".

Basil shows obsession with social status throughout the series. He thinks that the doctor has a high social status, and the nurse has a low status.

Therefore, he misbehaves with the "low status" nurse, and starts becoming far more respectful when the doctor arrives.

Cleese and the Pythons made a lot of fine comedy satirising the UK's class system, this could be seen as an example.

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I think it's unfair to label "most people" as racist in those days. Basil's reaction is one of fright, remember - he doesn't sneer at or abuse the doctor. "Xenophobia", like any phobia, refers to a fear. I also don't think the "black people/criminals" thing really took off until the problems in the inner cities in the mid-Seventies and onwards.

I wonder what your definition of "unusual" is? I don't think it was "unusual" to see black people in professional positions - there were fewer black people in Britain so this was reflected in the numbers in various jobs; so relatively rare, maybe, but not unusual. As long as I can remember, there has always been a high proportion of Asian doctors in the UK, for example (maybe not "black" as in this context, but a minority nonetheless).

They were different times, different attitudes, and it's very unfair to try to make a cut and dried assessment that, for example people were BAD back then and we are GOOD now because we are so enlightened. My parents, born in the Thirties, were the fairest minded, most "liberal" (as they would now be called) people you could wish to meet, and drilled into me the attitudes I still have today, but they routinely referred to "darkies" and "coloureds". It was part of the language then, a language which has changed with time. Nicknames like "Chalkie" and worse were acceptable, acquiesced to without any problem by the "victim". I was casually referred to as "Paddy" in my first job, and thought nothing of it. Now it would grate like fingernails on a chalkboard.

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In Cleese's commentary on the new, remastered disc set (excellent commentary, BTW; worth getting the new set, even if you already have one of the older versions), he says that his reaction to turning around and seeing the doctor was a nod to W.C. Fields in 'The Bank Dick.' In that movie, Fields is waiting in line at a bank counter, turns around to find a black man behind him, and gives a little jump of surprise.

"You may have come on no bicycle, but that does not say that you know everything."

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In Cleese's commentary on the new, remastered disc set (excellent commentary, BTW; worth getting the new set, even if you already have one of the older versions), he says that his reaction to turning around and seeing the doctor was a nod to W.C. Fields in 'The Bank Dick.' In that movie, Fields is waiting in line at a bank counter, turns around to find a black man behind him, and gives a little jump of surprise.


Thanks for sharing that bit of trivia there drunkbear. I'm aware of W.C. Fields although to be honest I've never watched any of his films. It's true however that there's sometimes homage's to movies or TV series that go over some people's heads. This one certainly did go over mine.

As a sidenote, I listened to the commentary Cleese did for A Fish Called Wanda and so through that experience I wouldn't be surprised if his one's for Fawlty Towers were superb. I found it insightful and really put more depth and context to why certain parts of the film were changed and understanding certain things about the characters. One that stands out for example is in the scene where Archie Leach as played by Cleese, and Wanda (Jamie Leigh Cleese) have their first rendezvous in the empty apartment building. He ends up laughing when she quotes something stupid that her pseudo-brother Otto (Kevin Kline) had said, and she responds with "I love the way you life and in the script in brackets Cleese had put:

(She's not lying)

Nice but of insight because it's the one time in the movie up until that point where she actually tells the truth and hints early on at her potentially growing to like him. I know we're supposed to be discussing Fawlty Towers but I just thought it was still worth mentioning.

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I seem to remember a Buston Keaton movie where he reacts in fright to a black person - a woman, if I'm not mistaken.

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