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It isn't pornographic. Porn is supposed to arouse, the stuff in here is there to shock and repulse the audience by emphasising the ordeal she has to go through. It isn't titillating in the slightest and it isn't suposed to be.
If it wasn't there would there really be any sufficient justification for the revenge she seeks? Regardless of whether it was cut, and we had to use our imaginations to consider the fact that being forced in to prostitution and had to do this stuff.
I think it's all the better for being in there. The only problem is that some people don't think the pay off isn't suitable enough. Though I think it is, it is pretty brutal especially that close up of the pimp getting shot twice in the leg. You had to feel for him, he seemed like a nice pimp to me :)

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I am of the understanding that these 'porn' scenes are spliced into the film (i.e. they don't 'belong') and that it is extremely obvious as such.

Yes, they are spliced in (Christina Lindberg didn't do her own hardcore shots). I didn't find them "extremely" obvious. And they weren't added by some studio after the fact, they were a part of the film envisioned and shot by the director, Bo Arne Vibenius. If you want the film created by the director, essentially the Director's Cut, then that includes the harcore scenes. If you're going to discredit them because they were shot with a different actress (essentially a body double for the hardcore stuff) then that's like saying CGI effects should be cut out of movies, or stunt scenes with stunt men. These were sex stunt scenes shot by the director at the time the rest of the movie was shot on the same set.

Since this type of self-pimping for popularity is very uncool in my eyes,

Then you shouldn't like the whole film, not just the hardcore scenes. The whole movie was Bo Arne Vibenius attempt at pimping. He stated that with this film he wanted to make "the most commercial film ever!" as his previous "artistic" film had sunk him financially and he desperately needed funds. If you consider the hardcore scenes as pimping then you might as well consider the nude scenes as pimping, and the violence scenes as pimping. Pimping is what the exploitation genre is all about. If you're looking for art this is probably not the movie for you.

And the bottom line is that the scenes were cut by the US distributers for commercial reasons. If anything the cut version is the "pimped" version.

I would prefer to seek out the "Vengence Edition" with the original cut of the film, where the pacing isn't so screwed up.

The "Vegence Edition" is NOT the original cut. The limitied edition that is uncut and uncensored is the original (director's) cut of the film. The vegence edition may be close to the cut that AIP released when they bought the US distribution rights and decided to cut out the hardcore scenes. That version is what Vibenius calls the "s**t version". and I don't feel the pacing is screwed up, and apparently neither did Vibenius.

The porn could have been an interesting 'deleted scene' feature for the DVD

Or not. Deleted scenes features usually show scenes that the director shot and cut for his own reason, not scenes that the director included but that some foreign distributer cut because they wanted to make it more commercial.

Do you all see every film that comes your way?
Or do you make viewing choices based on what you believe you will enjoy?

I'll tell you one thing, if I do choose to see a movie I ALWAYS seek out the director's cut or uncut version if it is available. I think a movie should be seen the way a director created it and intended it to be seen, not the way some Puritanical censor sitting in some office feels people should see it.

... people getting shot, an eye getting stabbed, rapes, beatings... throw in a little copulation and everyone gets offended.

You bring up an interesting irony there, mvario :)
It makes no sense, but there it is.

And that is my point, that some folks, especially Americans, have an unhealthy hang-up about sex. And while that is bad enough, it's ludicous when compared to their hunger for violence. And, yes, I'm American, and continuously dumbfounded by the behaviour of my countrymen in this regard.

And so you know:
"The hardcore sequences included in this director's cut of Thriller-A Cruel Picture are present at the request of the director."
That is from this page that has a lot of info about the film:
http://www.tombofdvd.com/cruel_liners.htm

-Mike
"Let's make some art!"

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Oh man,,, that is one of the best quotes I've seen in awhile.


Regan: What an excellent day for an exorcism

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We've established that, ha

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"Life's a pain and God's a sadist."

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