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'Vengeance' edited editon (no porn inserts)


I'm really interested in seeing this highly controverisal film (I've heard that it's a film that should be in every cult film fan's collection), but I've also heard that there are quite sexually graphic porn inserts in the film, and that they effect the flow. Now, I understand that the current Limited Edition DVD is wonderful when it comes to the extras and stuff, but if the sex scenes indeed do drag the movie down, I'm going to instead get the edited "Vengeance Edition" that Synapse is releasing at the end of August. Then again, if the extras aren't as good as the current edition, I may go with that one. Are the porn scenes really that bad?

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dunno
how prude are you? the annoying part of the hardcore inserts is that its clearly not the main actress. the body shape is completely different. Its kind of shocking to be honest, because the inserts are just so out of left field.

"now they got the sun, an' they got the palm trees,they got the weed, an' they got the taxis"

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The hardcore inserts are very, very dodgy. Not only are they clearly nicked from a different film and badly spliced into this one, they really only serve as titilation - which needless to say is not really called for given the context in which they are shown. And yes, they do seem horribly out of place.

After I first watched it, I actually thought I might rip it, remove the various hardcore inserts and watch it again without these gratuitous elements. I didn't in the end but these scenes did grate, not least because you'll need a bath when the film has finished to wash the sleaze off of you.

If you're going to watch a version of the film you really may as well watch the "warts and all" uncut version. The film is what it is and and I think you may as well brave the version with the porno - as long as you fully understand what you're letting yourself in for. This is defintely a film for which non film geeks will label you as a sick **** if you recommend it to them.

Whichever version you watch, this is certainly an interesting film and well worth seeking out if you're interested in old exploitation movies. It's actually not a bad little film in spite of the fact that the first half is really quite gruelling to watch because it's so ultra sleazy.

Just keep repeating .... it's only a movie.

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"It's hard to imagine that the vengeance edition, which is 20 mins shorter, ONLY removes porn."

Yikes, 20 minutes!

I'm going from memory but I don't think there was anything like 20 minutes of porn inserts. 5 minutes maybe, but never 20.

I should avoid the "Vengence" edition if it's really 20 minutes shorter than the unrated version, it sounds like they're removed a lot more than just the porn.

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i have just recieved an uncut (limited edt) of this, i will post my thoughts when i've watched it :-)

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Are you ever going to post your thoughts?

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I think you have the wrong info: The "Vengeance" edition is not 20 minutes shorter, as it runs 104 minutes. The totally uncut "Red" edition runs at 107 minutes. There is only a difference of 3 minutes. 2 minutes of hardcore footage, as well as the eye cutting scene being shortened, nothing else is cut.

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I watched the Vengeance Edition today, not knowing when I bought it that I was in fact getting the edited version. Can't decide if I want to go ahead and order the limited edition version from deepdiscountdvd or not, but I probably will. If anyone wants the cut copy for $10... :)

They don't just edit out the sex, they edit out the eye cutting scene and probably quite a bit more, the movie really loses something in this cut I think.

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If the cover art is any indication, the "Vengeance" Edition is the version marketed in America called THEY CALL HER ONE EYE, which was indeed about 20 minutes shorter.

I recommend the full, uncut version, but I also agree that the porn inserts are a little sleazy. I understand why they are there; I like the very "European" feel they bring to an exploitation movie; but I personally can do without them. Mostly as the rest of the film is conceivably something I might recommend to friends as a powerful, graphic, oddly beautiful movie. But as it stands, I find myself always saying the above, followed by, "... with PORN in it."

Also, there is probably less than one minute of thrusting insertion in the movie, if I recall. It certainly was minimal; just not brief enough to miss.

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I don't see what you people are talking about. The Vengeance edition is 104 minutes long. The Unrated is 107 minutes. I've even looked at foreign listings for the movie and the porno laced version is still 107 minutes. What jacked up edition has 20 minutes cut out of it and is 87 minutes long? (This is for NTSC versions)

Sure I see on the IMDb page for this movie, that the USA run time is listed as 84 minutes but the one on Amazon and the one on the shelf I saw at Best Buy is 104 minutes long. That is for the Vengeace edition. My guess, because the actual insertion scenes are so short, that they are cut out and that takes out about 3 minutes of seeing some dudes tally-whacker and a little pumping action. The porno scenes really aren't worth that extra 3 minutes in my opinion.




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the current vengence version, is basically the same movie just without the porn inserts.

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As much as other people say these insert are uncalled for I personally disagree yes they are sickening and you may feel like washing your eye balls when its all over.

But at least watch them and judge for yourself.

I think that the pporn becomes more and more degrading as the film goes on which ties into her mental state she becomes more unstable the more she is used and humiliated.

If you can watch Irreversible then I believe you can watch this.

Yes it is shocking but life ain't all pretty flowers.

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By the way, the porn does include the actual actress. She, in real life, was a porn actress. The clips look like *beep* because they are not digitally remastered- they are not stolen from other videos!

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christina lindberg is not in those scenes...

the actors in these scenes are ``extras``.

the whole point of these scenes was for the audience
to really feel her pain..

and christina never did any hardcore, just soft porn..

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You are correct Sir!

During the Porno scenes you never see the actresses face. It's been a while but I couldn't even swear that they had the same body type.

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