Tarantino

Tarantino does not steal, because he does at least point out his references. Like Sam Raimi and Peter Jackson he is a huge fan of films and he enjoys showing his influences. Or would you prefer the stealthier and more dishonest ripping of other peoples work that other Hollywood directors do so often. At least Tarantino points people in the direction of more interesing films, and not just the pap that we are given in front of us.

If you don't like him, fair enough. But no need to be so over the top please. Keep it fair.

Okay, I stumbled onto this film after reading some recommendations on the Salo: 120 Days of Sodom board, not because I heard Tarantino liked it. (Also bought a copy of Don't Go In the House at a used store because they had a buy 1 VHS get 1 free deal, and I thought it looked amusing... then later, I found out Tarantino liked it.) So I guess you could say I'm an objective viewer of this film, and I came to it more or less on my own terms.

However coincidentally I AM a Tarantino fan - and Tarantino bashers drive me nuts. I love underground cinema as much as anyone else here, and yes, Tarantino borrows from a lot of underground films. But that's his style! There, I said it -- Tarantino likes to borrow from other movies. A lot. I won't deny that. But his art doesn't come from him saying "Oh yeah, this scene and this character are 100% my own original thinking" and lying about it. We all know that he will readily come out and say "Yeah, so-and-so was based off of this character from this other movie" or "This fight sequence was modelled after a sequence in this weird underground film." -- He ADMITS it! Does no one on this board know what the term "postmodern" means? Yes, it's the most pretentious word of all time, but that's what Tarantino IS - he is a postmodern filmmaker! Do any of you Tarantino bashers sit around complaining about how The Simpsons references eight billion other movies or sitcoms in the time span of a single half hour episode? I mean, Andy Warhol wouldn't have been an artist if Campell's soup didn't exist. Can anyone honestly say that, because Quentin Tarantino borrowed ideas from Thriller for reference points in Kill Bill, that instantly means they are the SAME FILM, and Tarantino is a bastard for cheapening the original??? I certainly hope not! Because to me they are very, very, very different films, even though Tarantino borrows ideas from Thriller. And if you can't recognize this, then I think you need to take a course on media literacy.

I think many Tarantino bashers are a bit elitist and feel the need to bash Hollywood and defend underground cinema every chance they get. Mind you I sympathize with those feelings because I hate a lot of stuff that comes out of Hollywood these days as well -- which is *exactly* why I praise directors like Quentin Tarantino for putting SOMETHING with artistic merit into the mainstream, and for calling attention to other films and film-makers who deserve more attention than they initially received.


"They were just interested in hamburgers and food." -- Varg Vikernes

just incase someone happens to come on this board.

You even need to look further than him wearing his influences on his sleeve.

Its right in front of your face and haven't quite put it all together yet.

The characters in his movies have seen these "other" movies. We live in a time where everyone, including hitmen steal there personalities from the older guys that were genuinely tough in personality just because times were more tough. Tarantino was the first to follow suit of his characters and use this behind the camera also. He actually made "ripping off" the reason for his movies very existence because of how the world changed, and by doing so he is really being honest with himself as a writer/directer. Not to mention the boy has watched movie after movie his whole life.

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