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Transit Police were completely incompetent


I don't know if this was somekind of inside joke for New Yorkers,but the NYC Transit Police is portrayed as an undisciplined force of loud mouth,belligerent racists.Patrolmen and detectives were being rude and offensive to each other.Their attitude to the Japanese was abysmal and worse of all were the negotiating tactics.They continued a sarcastic snd insulting tactic to the armed terrorists who had already murdered 2 people.And the Transit Police already knew they had killed them.I don't think in a situation like that,with 18 hostage lives at stake the most reasonable tactic would be to make the terrorists angry.

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I agree the movie hammed up the rougher aspects of 1970s NY in order to create on-screen personalities.

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I agree the movie hammed up the rougher aspects of 1970s NY in order to create on-screen personalities.


They did not "ham up" anything. Not only were those characters exactly like old school New Yorkers, you can still see those loud, abrasive, sarcastic jackasses working in the NYPD and various other areas (MTA, for example).

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Perhaps that is so. I am biased. I had a Great Uncle with the NYPD from 1919 to 1959. He was nothing like you described which may be one reason he rose to Precinct Captain. Certainly none of my encounters with those guys was anything other than calm and orderly. You might have had other experiences which has influenced your opinion.

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Certainly none of my encounters with those guys was anything other than calm and orderly. You might have had other experiences which has influenced your opinion.


I HAVE had other experiences that most certainly have influenced my opinion. Last year, I came across the rudest, most belligerent cops working the security machines when I had to check in my items during jury duty. Instead of politely telling everyone to remove their keys, metal items, etc., one cop barked in a belligerent tone to remove our things, then ranted, "You make sure you remove everything, and don't be all slick and pretend to forget your keys or your cell phone or whatever. We know every trick in the book."

Another incident: I had my wallet stolen and my account drained. When I went to the precinct to report it two days later, the woman was not only accusatory, she kept looking me up and down with a snide look as if I was lying. Then when she was "satisfied" that I was telling the truth, she handed me a form and told me, "Write your sob story here."

Keep in mind that I'm not saying that ALL of them act like that, but as a lifelong New Yorker, I have come across enough of these "types" where the movie didn't come across as being hammed up, but fairly accurate.

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The movie doesn't really make it clear, but at the time, the NYPD was essentially three units: the NYPD, Transit Police and Housing Authority Police. Transit and Housing were considered lesser operations (unofficially, of course) and jurisdiction on cases was often controversial. The department was consolidated in 1995.

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The Transit Police were probably used to dealing with less complex crimes -muggings, robberies of the change booths, assaults, even murders would likely have been simpler cases (robberies gone wrong, etc.). They were all probably just used to dealing with irate passengers and had developed a cynical veneer over time

They likely had never encountered any sort of really complex criminal plan before where a different approach might have been called for. As the event escalated, I wonder if the NYPD wouldn't have assumed control of the event.

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